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Missed my point completely. I'm saying that nobody has told Sale he can't have it, at least not that we know of. I'm saying let the doctors decide if it's essential. Who made you god of medicine?

So then how do you know if the Red Sox or any doctor has come out and told Sale that he can't have the surgery? Not to even mention how he feels about it

Alright, so then the next time you need a surgery that will severely impact your ability to perform your career, tell your doctors you're not interested

That just tells me that everybody knew about the Astros, which is what I said earlier. They were being incredibly blatant about it

Kimmi, all I'm saying here is this: Pretend you're a MLB pitcher for a second. You're told that your UCL is busted and you need Tommy John. You could either wait 6 months (which I think is exaggerating btw), miss all of 2020 and 2021, or do it now, and have a chance to pitch for a bulk of the 2021 season. You could either lose 2 years of service time, and have your next contract be based off people not knowing what you are able to do post-op, and sign for far less money, or you could do it now, come back in June 2021 and pitch your way into a respectable contract. I'm not saying it's right to be selfish. I'm saying baseball is a business, and everybody involved is in it for the money. You think people are saying things because they have a vested interest in it? That's absolutely true. They have money at stake. How would you like it if this were 1990 right now, not 2020, and you as a high school teacher would really be SOL right now and not able to work at all?

That's the second time today you've brought up Fiers. Get another example

I'll believe it when I see it

Considering that many pitchers come back a shell of themselves after TJS, I'd say it does, and I don't know how you can think that it doesn't

That I disagree with, as far as contracts are concerned. It can make all the difference in length of deal and amount per year

Ouch. Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

Probably. I don't even remember at this point, but I'll admit when I'm wrong. There's a lot of stuff I don't know, and I only try to form my opinions off of my own personal experiences. Since those aren't as extensive as the rest of you, there are many holes in a lot of my arguments that will close over time. It's all good

Exactly. I believe my argument was hard to follow, and I was heading down a path of right-wing radicalism before I honed it in. In my life, nothing has really been handed to me. I've had to earn everything. Sure, there are people less fortunate than me. Some work hard to move up in the world, some don't. But, what kills me, especially in the educational system, is how people like me can usually be overshadowed by the "popular" type, or most frat guys, some of whom pay other people to do work for them and then do better than me on various assignments, and sometimes exams. That's the injustice I was targeting, but my point about wage equality not solving anything still stands.

Yeah, because we are the only ones to have done that, at least that we know of. It started with the Apple Watch fiasco a few years ago

Exactly. Astros took it to new extremes and were being blatant about it. We tried to pull a fast one by taking advantage of the technological resources available to us, and then infusing it with the normal 2nd base sign stealing that has gone on forever

It's also "essential" for their profession, livelihood, and sole source of income

While astute examples, I don't think that those can necessarily be applied here. For people to be rich, someone has to be poor. It's not like for someone to be able to vote, somebody else has to not be able to vote. As many people can vote as they want, and in fact, the more the merrier. Not everybody can be rich, because than in comparison, everybody would be poor at the same time, since everybody would have the same amount of wealth. I think society would be worse off if everybody had exactly the same resources. There would be no motivation to do anything. We need the dog eat dog, survival of the fittest sort of culture that currently exists. You don't like being poor? Well then work harder. I am a proponent of giving the less fortunate a chance to prove themselves. If we should make a change to the "system" it should be to make it so hard work gets more directly rewarded, because there are plenty of hardworking people that deserve better. In that system, the people that are rich would have earned it, and the people that are poor would have also earned it, by being lazier.

Yes, I completely agree with that point. What I am saying is that it's just the natural progression of things in society. The wealthy get better access because they can afford to. You can't change that, so I don't understand why you're complaining about it

That goes back to your argument that everybody should have been more proactive. Nobody was adequately prepared, because nobody could see the scale of this pandemic coming. And complain all you want, but that's the way the world works. The wealthy get better opportunities and better access to key resources. I don't like it either, but that's the way it works. If everybody got the same access to the same resources, there would be no motivation for anybody to work. Now we're talking socialism here

Not true at all. Jacko has proven time and time again that he's rational, and contributes a lot to this site. There have been plenty of other Yankees fans that have come and gone on this place that fit your description, but not him, that's for sure. If that were the case, he'd been banned long ago

What are you suggesting? CDC officials going door to door to test the poor?

To my understanding, what we were "allegedly" doing wasn't nearly as bad as the Astros. I have a friend, who while biased as a Yankees fan, is well-informed on these matters. I'm not exactly sure what it is we were doing, but he said it was the same thing that basically every team does now, except we took it too far by using technology

Key line from that article" "That perception is both accurate and inaccurate. Three professors of epidemiology who spoke with The Daily Beast explained that Syndergaard and Sale are, in all likelihood, not impinging on the ability of health-care professionals to respond to the virus, nor are they diverting resources. "

No, forget that. I'm sorry for that last comment. I'm not sorry for my opinions and the things I say on here. Feel free to disagree with whatever you want. I personally don't like being so viciously attacked every time I express a different opinion than the mighty mvp 78, but I realize the mental and emotional toll this new norm we call life is taking on everybody. Just because I've found a way to cope doesn't mean everybody else has. To all, I wish you the best. Good health, good financial safety, and good personal safety. And more importantly, a good night

Look, I don't know what your problem has been today, but I feel a more insulting undertone than normal. Just because I have my life figured out and have found a way to be happy during this tough time doesn't mean I'm selfish and have lost touch with what's important for the world. The key to happiness is being content no matter the situation. I suggest you try it

My tax professor in the fall told us about a court case that a stripper won that allowed her to claim the medical expense itemized deduction for her boobjob after it was deemed essential to her occupation