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So what your saying is that you don't care about stats, just who wins and who loses? You do realize that Buchholz is 7-2, right?

Good? yes. Great? yes. Potential to be the best in the major leagues? Yes. Reliable? Absolutely not.

Woah f***, that was a quick run.

Wow, bunting in that spot. Well executed, but surprising considering what a slugfest tonight has been.

And that year, he was second in the league in ERA, and led the majors in adjusted ERA.

Wow. Buchholz getting hammered.

Ugh, 2012 Buchholz.

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Big Papi!!!

Dempster is the Erik Bedard of 2012. Don't touch him. Hell, don't waste prospects on rentals this year.

As soon as the Red Sox become sellers, and it is clear that they won't be trading their top chips for players at the trade deadline, he'll be promoted.

Ortiz is a 10-5 player. If he gets traded, it will be his decision to allow it. The guy is a hero here, and will retire a Red Sox, but if he'd allow a change of scenary and the Red Sox can get a top 100 prospect for him, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

This is a reasonable thread. The Red Sox's season may be coming to an end soon. Personally, I want to see the Red Sox cash in chips, and stock up their farm system to kingdom come, and make a run in 2014 while keeping a core of Pedroia, Buch, Lester, Agon, Bard, Middlebrooks, Kalish etc etc etc. The talent is there, and will continue to be there, even if they trade a few bad seeds. But this season is close to being lost, and it is worth getting what you can from rental players while you can.

You're hiding the truth of his season with a statement of that. ERA June 2.31 July 1.56 August 2.78 September 5.40

This trial was dumb to begin with. The steroid witchhunt needs to be put down. The steroid era put a black mark on baseball, and it is the system's fault, not the player's fault.

The revenue streams have been drying up fast in Boston. With the way 2010-2012 have gone, I would be very surprised if the Red Sox front office doesn't try to lower costs, and rely on the younger players-- and Lackey-- in 2013.

Youkilis needs to go simply because getting Middlebrooks consistent time is the best thing for this team. Dicek is a decent--but not great-- starting pitcher, who would probably do very well in the NL or larger parks. He's a flyball pitcher in a groundball pitcher's park. Teams are always desperate for starting pitching-- remember last year how hard it was to get someone who could pitch below a 6.00 ERA?

I do appreciate the thread, and I also think this team needs to be blown up. It will start at the top with guys like Beckett, and Youkilis that are ripping this team apart. As mediocre as Dice-k is, I would seriously bet that someone will want him come the trade deadline. Maybe a team like Toronto that is desperate for any sort of pitching depth. I'd love to see the Red Sox manage to pry elite prospects away from a team for guys like Ellsbury or Bailey who can't seem to stay healthy to save their lives. Lester has to be as close to untouchable as they come on this team. It would take two elite-elite pitching prospects to get him off this team's hands, at the bare minimum. In my opinion, Jon Lester's contract makes him nearly as valuable as Felix Hernandez, perhaps more so. He's having a bad season, but it happens to everyone. Getting rid of Beckett should be the priority here, not Lester. Some players to add to the list: Kelly Shoppach: He's been OPSing .920 against right handed hitters this year, and he seriously wants more playing time. He's also far better than Salty defensively, and not coming back to Boston next year. He could possibly net a very solid mid tier prospect for one of the many contending teams lacking pitching depth. Atchison, Albers, Miller: I've talked about it at length here this year, but there have been tons and tons of injuries to upper tier relief pitching this year. These guys have had deceptively good seasons this year, but there is always going to be that team that makes a dumb move to try to build relief pitching for a deep playoff run. Package one or two of these guys, and maybe use one of the catchers, and who knows, you may be able to pull away a good prospect. And to a lesser extent, you could probably throw in Tazawa, Mortensen, Wilson, Melancon and see what deals stick

I'm very concerned about their draft signings right now. I just took a look, and they're very very off, and they haven't signed one of their first rounders yet. I'm really hoping they can squeeze a cheap signing out of their first rounder, but it seems doubtful.

Morales doesn't exactly have a great track record as a starter. He's going to be very good against lineups with several lefthanded hitters, but he still will get creamed against good righties-- like Castro with his three hits last night. Also, he struck out the pitcher twice, so I would look to last night as a 7 strikeout game, rather than a 9 strikeout game. I'm cautiously optimitic about this one. Let's hope he can hold the fort till Beckett returns from his owie.

Morales doesn't exactly have a great track record as a starter. He's going to be very good against lineups with several lefthanded hitters, but he still will get creamed against good righties-- like Castro with his three hits last night. Also, he struck out the pitcher twice, so I would look to last night as a 7 strikeout game, rather than a 9 strikeout game. I'm cautiously optimitic about this one. Let's hope he can hold the fort till Beckett returns from his owie.