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How recently is "very recently" to you? I mean, the kid has a save from back in June.

he also bounced back nicely from being screwed over by his team when we tweaked his delivery in '07 and nearly made a Greinke level headcase out of him.

Not too worried about a few walks. Guy's a rook. I'd be more surprised if he wasn't walking people. As long as he can throw a strike when he really needs one, a bit of "effective wildness" helps a power pitcher.

More impressive than 3 digit cheese is the easy 98 IMHO. It's just so rare to see him thwo a fastball less than 97 or so. A lot of pitchers can touch the high 90's and sniff 100 but not a lot of pitchers can really live there like Bard does.

Can we be clear about one thing though? Daniel Bard is a match for Chamberlain in the stuff department. He's a little behind on command but that can develop, and he's miles ahead on mechanics and body type. In other words, it's reasonable to compare Chamberlain and Bard. Bard also wipes the floor with Chamberlain in the attitude department, for whatever that's worth. Also, one other thing, Duchy does have a point about FIP. While also being extremely talented, Chamberlain got away with a lot of stuff that year, and there were some times when Rivera bailed him out. I don't think you can look just at ERA and say that Chamberlain's debut season was more impressive than Bard's. Especially since Bard is going to pitch more over a longer period than Chamberlain did, and he's probably going to earn his way into a setup role over more talented pitchers than the Yankees had to work with in '07, which should be more impressive to those keeping score. Also we don't have to mollycoddle our guy. There's no "Bard Rules." Bard just rules, and will come in whenever you need him. That consideration should at least be a tiebreaker with all else equal.

It might not be a first round pick. It's their best remaining pick. If the Yankees know what they're doing they'll game the system to make sure their #1 pick does not go to boston.

You're wrong, Duchy. You get the top pick from the signing team and a compensatory "sandwich pick" is added to the 1a round courtesy of the league. if you offered arbitration and the player refused, or if you didn't offer arbitration, you get nothing at all. The Yankees sign a lot of top tier free agents. It's entirely possible that a Bay signing would only cost them their third round pick or something like that because of the 2 other guys they will also sign. As deterrents to signing a big contract go, losing picks isn't a huge one unless the signing itself goes kersplunk. Although I definitely want that pick back that we wasted on Lugo.

The troll-fu is strong with this one todat.

Adrian Gonzalez is signed through 2011 if the Padres pick up his option, he costs them about $5M average over the next two years for one of the best first base bats in the National League. Trading him while he's this cheap would be absolutely stupid for San Diego to even contemplate. You want a SD player, talk to them about Chris Young. Adrian Gonzalez is the last guy to leave.

I wonder if we could get involved in a three player deal and scoop up a prospect on the cheap in exchange for being the dumping grounds for some big Texas contract.

Adrian Gonzalez is not available. Even if all players are available, Adrian Gonzalez is not available. Put that thought to bed, tuck it in, turn on the night light, and let it go to sleep.

Ortiz.

OK, nice PA.

Nice AB

My little addendum comes in handy. [table]Topic|Team|Content Prospect|Yankees|The player in question is made of 150% pure awesomeness. Fear us. Prospect|Sox|He could be good, but this is why he won't be. Signing|Yankees|This is the missing piece. We'll win 160 games, and the umps will screw us out of 2. Signing|Sox|Risky move, overpaid here, they'll regret this. Injury|Yankees|They don't get hurt. Hypothetically, if they did, the recovery will be speedy with no impact to ability. Injury|Sox|Everyone is a ticking time bomb. Once hurt, they'll never heal right. Pending FA|Yankees|He will surely sign with the Yankees, or if not, good riddance to bad rubbish Pending FA|Sox|He will reject any deal with Boston and sign with New York[/table]

He'll be back.

That's the Jacko Factor for ya.

If Doug Mirabelli could muster a bit of speed he could steal bases too.

maybe they think that with a little patience they can get a better price. No sense rushing into a 3 year commitment.

From you, this is rich.

He's saying that Pena is pretty much a generational talent defensively. Quite the stretch.

What exactly did you fix? Sorry, I've got my stupid on this morning, having a little trouble seeing the obvious.

Really? When I've seen him in action he looked pretty good, and he was supposed to be this fielding maestro. EDIT: Just looked up the numbes. Wow, OUCH. What the heck happened?

They're also pretty useful to have around, as we're finding out with Green. That arm of his has saved us quite a bit of trouble. But there NOT that hard to find if you really need one.