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Just throwing this out there. If we miss the playoffs, I think that it isn't going to be because of this series, but instead it will be because when the Yankees were struggling, and really playing bad ball, we didn't capitalize. They kept on trucking, even though it was hard at times, and we just kept chilling. We should've been up a lot more than we were before this whole debacle. Ugh...

Why couldn't this clown pitch last night in the 8th?

No. If only someone could get on base next inning for you-know-who.

Boomer isn't going anywhere soon. It is still August, and we do have almost 40 games left. If we fall double digets behind the Yankees, we should trade Lowell, Boomer and Loretta for some young talent, or bullpen help for next year.

Come on. Lets score some runs. This is the first time in years it seems like that we have only allowed 2 runs after 8 innings. It is time for the offense to make its contribution today. LETS GO!

And they easily could have won more, and picked up Papelbon. 13 stranded, bases loaded in the 9th with 1 out (I think). We could've and should've scored more runs.

Find a quote in which I said the pitching hasn't been the main reason we are losing? I am not saying that. I am saying, when they do get a good outing from a starter, the offense does jack. The pitching doesn't pick up the offense, and the offense doesn't pick up the pitching. That is why we are losing.

Again, I am not saying the pitching has been good or anything close to it. My only point is that when we get a good starting pitching outing, we get no offensive support. When we get a bad outing, we get good offensive support. Why can't the pitching and hitting click at the same time? Wells pitched perhaps the best game a Red Sox starter has pitched all year, but the team does nothing to help him out.

With all the struggles these four days, this is almost the most frustrating for me. We can expect bad bullpen outings, but we couldn't score one run off of a bad pitcher. This game hurts the most. Boomer pitched his ass off, and his team did squat to help him. Schilling pitched his ass off, his team let him down. f*** the first three games, the last two are by far the worst loses of the season.

I totally agree. If I were to asses blame, I'd say 50% is the pen, 30% is the starting, and 20% is the offense. But that 20% is still a factor. Like today. Great outing, no runs. It is just a shame that we can't have both good pitching and good batting at the same time. It never happens. So maybe both are more equally at fault.

Wow. You sound like Mike Timlin. That is all the man said, so why bash him about it. HE WAS RIGHT.

NO! THEY CAN'T f***ING SCORE ONE RUN WHEN THE PITCHING HANDS THEM A GREAT OUTING. I KNOW THEY'VE SCORED LOTS OF RUNS, BUT THEY NEVER EVER EVER EVER GIVE ANY SUPPORT WHEN WE GET A GOOD OUTING. I REALLY DON'T CARE HOW MANY RUNS THEY SCORE, I CARE WHEN THEY SCORE THEM. CORY f***ING LIDLE. 0 RUNS SCORED OFF OF HIM. WHY CAN'T THE OFFENSE DO ANYTHING WHEN WE GET A GOOD OUTING?

Did I say it was THE reason? All I said it hasn't really done anything to help out either. Timlin main point was that when the pitching gives a good outing, the offense never gives them any support. He is right. He didn't say the pitching has been amazing, and the offense has sucked, he said when we get a good outing, we don't score runs. What is better proof than today's game????? The bullpen takes the brunt of the blame, the offense should take some too. They had the chance to pick up the team, even after Paps and co. blew it, but they blew it as well. Besides Ortiz, Manny and DFA, the offense has been despicable.

5 runs...wow! Then stranded 3 men in the 9th. How about scoring double diget runs when we get a good outing? They left 13 men on base, including 6 left in scoring position. They've stranded 41 batters in 4 games. That is bad. No big hits what-so-ever. The pen should take most of the blame, but the offense has to take a lot of it as well. THEY COULDN'T SCORE A f***ING RUN OFF OF CORY FREAKING LIDLE!!!!!!!!!! That is almost worse than allowing 7 runs in 1 inning.

Just admit he has a point though. Duh he wont call out his fellow pitchers, no pitcher would call out other pitchers. But this offense has scored a lot of runs when we didn't need them, and no runs when we do need them. We probably lead the league in runners stranded. Just admit he has a point. Where is the run support? Where was it yesterday? This is Cory Lidle pitching, not Roger Clemens.

Unfortunately, there is no pitching out there to get. Nice play Lowell. Wells looks ace like. We have two aces, but it doesn't matter. They get no run support, or bullpen support.

I'm telling you, Timlin had a point. When we get offense, we get no pitching, when we get pitching, we get no offense. While the pen has lost two games for us, the offense has really sucked, despite the amount of runs scored.

700, could you spend a million dollars on a car if you didn't have the funds? No. I don't get what upsets you about the Sox having a limit on what they can spend. It is a fact that they can't spend more than they have. So what upsets you about this. They have brought in 1,000,000 less people then the Yankees already. They just don't have the funds. Why can't it be an excuse? It is a fact. The bottom line is, they do have the second highest salary, and they aren't playing like it. They should certainly be better than the 5th best record that they hold. But they can't spend 200 million, so why does this piss you off so much. Theo can't make 3 million fans turn into 4 million. The Red Sox will never have as much money to spend as the Yankees. You have unrealistic expectations. You can't rebuild a team in a year, and you can't have a playoff team every year, for the most part. Only two teams have/can do it. I understand your frustration, a lot of the moves have looked questionable. But the FO is looking towards the future, and you want now, now, now. It's amazing how you can forget that Theo brought a championship to Boston. And since he did it, you seem to think he should do it every year, which is ludacris.

He'll still do fine vs. the NL.

Yeah, Moyer is better off in the NL. I don't think he'd really be a great addition to the Sox. He is 43, throws about 43 mph and has an ERA just south of 5. Nice move by the Phills, who have a good shot at making the playoffs. He probably can be an ace in the NL.

I agree with most of what you said. But come on, this front office brought a championship to us. You can't bitch at them for two years of iffyness. You have to be patient. There is no way we could have kept the same exact team in 2005 as we did in 2004. The Sox are on a budget, no matter how much you don't want to believe. Sure, they made some bad moves, but they don't have the money, like the Yankees, to recover. The Yankees have made just as many bad moves, but it doesn't matter, because they have no cap on their spending. I remember after 2004, Peter Gammons said that the FO is playing with the house's money for the next few years. They brought a championship to Boston, after 86 years of drought. Gammons figured fans would be content. Do you realize how hard it is to win in back to back years, or even 2 out of 3. It rarely ever happens. If we had 200 million dollars to spend, we'd probably also have Randy Johnson, Bobby Abreu, or some extra money would've helped us get Oswalt at the deadline. I am not an apologist, it's just that you are thinking too short term. You have unrealistic expectations. You want to be like the Yankees of recent, and ship out every prospect we have for the big names. That formula doesn't work. It hasn't worked in NY, and it certainly wont work here. Bob Ryan said that everyone knew that prior to this season, that it was a rebuilding season. You are crazy if you don't see that. Papelbon, Lester, Delcarmen, Hansen, Coco, Youks and Wily Mo are all young, and some of them have really hurt us this year. But you can't give up on them because they have had some rough outings. They are all in the young 20s, and some had to be rushed up to the majors. Whatever, I just think you have unrealistic expectations, and it is too easy for you to complain in hindsight. At the time, I thought Clement was a good signing, he was an all-star, then he got hit in the head and sucked. Foulke was a good signing, he brought us a ring, then he sucked. The Wily Mo for Arroyo deal was a good deal. Getting Coco Crisp was a good deal, we had to do it, he is young and cheap. Trading two of our top prospects for a WS MVP pitcher and an all-star 3rd baseman looked like a good deal, but hey, it can't always work out. Not re-signing Damon and Pedro may have been bad ideas, but Damon alone wouldn't make this team that much better than it is now, and Pedro is feasting on bad lineups, and still has the injury bug that the FO thought and new he had. The difference is this; you want to win every year, which is unrealistic, and I want to be able to win eventually, which is realistic. You think this team, because of it's payroll should win every year, where I realize it takes years to build a championship team. Whatever. This team has an amazing nucleus, and with some age, additions and patience, can become a championship team again. You are just upset that we are sucking. If your mind cooled off for a while, you'd understand that you have unrealistic expectations of what this FO can do.

Nah. JVB got called up yesterday, but they are calling up Javier Lopez today, and sending JVB back down again.

Lester isn't a bad pitcher, he just should still be in the minors. He loses control when he gets in a funk. Look what Rotoworld said on him... He has the stuff, he was just rushed. I hope this won't ruin him. He certainly is a better pitcher than Ponson, but he is in no way shape of form ready to be in the majors. At least Ponson has shown he has been able to have some success in the majors.

FOr all front office haters, what would have you done differently? Be realistic now. Remember you can't just waste money. I mean, the Beckett deal looks like s*** now, but at the time, and for the start of the season, it looked great. Any GM would've made that deal. It is easy for you whiners to complain in hindsight, but most of the things the FO has done looked great at the time, but have backfired. So what would've you done? Trade Alex Gonzalez for Albert Pujols? Trade Coco for Andruw? A lot of you are whining about Damon, but come on. Before these three days, no one really felt it was a mistake. I can't stand this site. Too many whiners and three years olds with only short term memories.