time to tear you apart. Okay, like I said before, he pitched in the NL. We already agree that that league is an easier league on pitchers. But a case could be made that Clemens, over the 119IP that he had last season, was the best pitcher in the NL. Are you saying that the best pitcher in the NL, the pitcher whose stats were better than the Oswalts, Peavys, and Zambranos of the world, would be well below average in the AL? That is dumb in and of itself.
who? Not one person on this site thinks that Clemens will have a sub 3 ERA in the AL. NOBODY.
Depends on which seasons you want to dissect. If you wish to look at his first season in the Bronx as more of a fluke (a 4.3 BB/9IP was WAY over his career average) then you can say that his 5 yr stretch in NY was nothing short of stellar. And, for argument's sake, you could say that Roger is pitching better than ever, mostly because he is much more accurate. His last 2 yrs in Houston, he was well below his career BB/9IP average and it showed in his ERA and his WHIP. And for adjustment's sake, if you wish to see what equivalent WHIPs in the two different leagues comes out to, you can look at his last season in pinstripes and his first season in Houston. The same WHIP, but a run less per 9IP. But the last 2 seasons, the WHIP has been 0.16 and 0.12 below his career WHIP. In any league, that is pretty damn good. Either way, he has actually gotten BETTER even though his age has increased, in the NL. His injury history is worth noting, but at the same time, the guy has made 30+ starts every single season he had played since 1995 aside from last yr simply because he was playing a shortened season. And even in his short season, he still missed only one start and pitched to a 6IP average. He will have his aches and pains, but his injury history has been vastly overblown.
And your point being? Joe Torre is a pretty stupid manager. He lets his pitchers throw until 100 pitches and takes them out, but he usually waits until the end of innings or if a runner reaches. Clemens averaged 16 pitches per inning. That means he doesnt hit 100 until he is in his 7th inning, and you can be sure Torre wont pull Roger at 97 pitches to start the 7th if he is going good. And, if Clemens averaged getting to 97 pitches after 6 innings, then he will be on average a 6 inning pitcher. That wont change too much in the AL.
He may throw a few more pitches, but it isnt like he will lose it all at once. Last yr he was dominant against major league players. He wont come over and suck. No matter how you try to twist it, our point wont be met. Any way you turn it, he was one of the best pitchers in the majors last yr. Deal with it.
no it isnt. You have no precedent. NONE. Stop being assinine.
I think the A's care more about saving a few bucks than we do. It is all about performance and if he can have 6 innings per start and keep his era around or below 4, he will be worth every penny to yankee fans. Who gives a s*** about value.
another moronic quote. So having an icon like Clemens on your team when he is still effective does nothing for your team? Do you know anything about the psychology of baseball? Clemens gives your team the feeling that they can win every time out. No rookie does that because even the best rookies hit a wall here and there. Clemens also brings a swagger back, something we lost when we disassembled the rotation after the 03 debachle. Clemens is the pitcher who will command the inside part of the plate and protect his hitters. He's the kind of guy to brush back Papi and throw one high and tight to Manny. Nobody, aside from a dirtdog like Trot Nixon, got comfortable against Roger. This is something he brings and his lessons to guys like Hughes and Clippard could come very much in handy.
Depends on the rookie in terms of overall performance. I would say Hughes and Clemens may win the same amount of games this season. But aside from the best pitching prospect in baseball, there is no other rookie I'd say could put up Clemens' numbers. And like I said, no rookie brings the kind of swagger that Clemens does, and he wont engender the same kind of fight that Clem would. This guy has been doing this a long time. Dont think that experience and raw talent as well as knowledge wont help this team and this pitching staff.