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I was about to say, that bashing seemed a bit out of character for you. Well played.

Bump. BoSox34 was a goddamned moron.

For once, Thump's right. Papelbon needed to be brought in the game there.

TWO TC winners in one year? Thumper, you're better than that.

Bump. What says Talksox as of now?

I like this thread too.

Jeter gets picked off second with ARod up? How intangible.

lolwut

Newsflash - Ian Kennedy still sucks. Spotted a 4-0 lead and gives it right back in the 2nd.

Under. He's been very good in his two appearances at Safeco.

As others have said, I'm fairly confident Rasner won't have a sub-2 ERA the rest of the season. But if he can keep it under 4.50 and eat some innings, he'll be valuable. His FIP is 3.88, which is more than respectable, but suggests he's been lucky and could regress.

Rondo played like s***.

My answer - No, he can't continue this.

f*** Ichiro. Dude goes balls out to get Varitek's shot, and lets a f***ing bloop drop in with minimal effort against the Yanks.

The way he was pitching, he could have given them at least one more. Put it this way - who do you want pitching...Rasner (I don't completely buy his success, but he's been good) or LaTroy Hawkins?

Awful job by Girardi pulling Rasner.

What the f*** is your point, exactly?

Fair enough. He's not a great offensive player, and I think was sagged with certain expectations when he came to Boston that he would have a VERY tough time filling. By "great offensive player", I mean someone who doesn't have the ability to create his own shot, score from anywhere on the floor, etc. KG is the best defensive player of this generation who is skilled enough to drop about 20 a night and get you ~12 boards with it. I suppose it's a fair criticism of KG, but it stems from unrealistic expectations many people have from the guy. Bill Simmons does not speak for me and I don't think sweeping generalizations are appropriate. I suppose it is fair criticism, but again, he HAS succeeded with games on the line just as often as he's failed. Is that an indictment of him as a player? I suppose. But he's not the "choker" many people label him, IMO. The fault in this line of thinking is that before this season, none of these three had anything resembling talent built around them, save for KG in 2004 and Pierce in 2002. Is it a coincidence that each team made it to their respective conference final? KG's Wolves lost to a Shaq/Kobe Lakers team in 7 games. Honestly, that is pretty impressive no matter how you look at it. The only other team to really give those Shaq/Kobe teams much trouble were the '04 Pistons. I think you're severely underestimating how important the supporting cast is. Even LBJ's team last year was better than any Ray Allen has ever been on, and would be in the top 3 for KG and Pierce. Embellishments aside, they are 6 wins away from banner #17. It may have taken them longer than people would like but that's really the most important fact, isn't it? What does Smush now have to do with Smush of three years ago? I'm confused. And Kobe is a superior player to KG. There's your difference right there. Kobe may be a top 5 player in league history when all is said and done. KG will probably be top 50. Nice company, but a difficult comparison. I'll restate, though, that this conversation has gone in a direction I never really wanted nor intended for it to go originally. KG in his prime was a one-of-a-kind player and still is, really -- I'd put him before Malone and after Duncan if we're ranking PF's.

Irrelevant. It's like the fact we have been 60% of Rich Harden's starts this year. It's a joke.

If you're comparing LeBron with KG, you get no argument from me. LeBron is a far superior player and will continue to be such for a long, long time. Do you take strength of conferences into account? I'm fairly certain LeBron doesn't take that Cavs team to the Finals if they had to go through the Rockets and Warriors (which is what the Jazz, the West runner-up, did - we already know they weren't going to beat the Spurs). I'm a tad confused - where are you getting these numbers? Are they regular season, or playoff numbers? Garnett looked fairly comfortable in the Cavs and Pistons series. I'll give you the Hawks, I think he played tentative in Atlanta, but he's been better in Cleveland and last night in Detroit. Again, you'll get no argument from me. Kobe and LBJ are far superior players to KG. But then again - how many playoff series has Kobe won without Shaq? Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Sasha Vujacic, Smush Parker is a better supporting cast than Wally Szcerbiak, Trenton Hassell, and Ricky Davis - and it isn't really close.

It's absolutely ridiculous that Hernandez gets scratched from his start in NY but is healthy to go tomorrow.

JFC.

Dude, I'm not so sure why you're so vehemently anti-Celtic or KG. I think people have unrealistic expectations about Kevin Garnett. He's a 7 foot perimeter player on the offensive end. He's also probably the best defensive player of this generation. He's never been the guy to absolutely take over games. Well, except for the Game 7 he had against the Kings in '03. He's also a choker in the playoffs. Well, except for the fact his playoff numbers are very similar to his regular season numbers. Do you really dispute that Minnesota's management completely s*** the bed with respect to surrounding KG with competent personnel?

Rich Harden has made five starts including tonight, and three of them have been against the Red Sox. Seriously, WTF?

I wholeheartedly disagree. Widespread assumptions and projecting make you look like a jackass. When did we start counting wins, playoff appearances, divisions as bragging rights? Do you have "AL East Championship" banners flying around Yankee Stadium? Do you get off on some kind of imagined superiority complex based off a baseball team? Sad.