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Agreed all around. It doesn't seem it would cost much to sign him and we could hit a jackpot for a change. At best he could give us some needed depth in our rotation and at worst he could be farmed out where he can continue his rehabilitation into a decent starting pitcher.

Sox Sport, a lot of us here have been aware that we are pretty much spent out money wise on pitching and will have to depend on those already on the roster for our improvement and recovery. That is why many of us have not kept hitting on the pitching; we have no more money to spend on them. Some of us hold out hope that Lester and Buchholz will finally round into shape and form a decent 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation and a healthy Lackey round into a decent No. 3 with Doubrant and Dempster rounding out into a decent rotation. Oh yes, there are dangers there but we have no choice---and Jon and Clay have the ability to become what we need them to be. Maybe having Farrell back might help. Good point about that impact hitter, though, and that is why I am so high on us getting Morse from the Nationals. He is capable of hitting 30-35 homers playing half his games at Fenway Park and having him in the lineup would take some of the pressure off of Middlebrooks as he enters only his second season with us and doesn't need the extra pressure. We lost some power when he blew the Cody Ross signing because Shane Victorino is not going to give us much power or maybe not much of anything. I saw him many times on TV when he was traded to the Dodgers last summer. Believe me, he really was crappy....ground outs to the second baseman batting lefty and short fly balls to left batting righty. He needs to have a comeback season and I would not bet on it right now.

Back up Spitball and take a cool pill. Millar was exclusively an outfielder with Florida for two seasons before the Red Sox got him. Maybe it would be better for you to check ALL the facts before trying to tie a tin can to me. The point I made was that it was possible for an outfielder to switch to first base because Millar did that AFTER being made an outfielder. Brentz could do it as well, and it doesn't matter when he or Millar played the outfield, the fact is the switch could be made and maybe be succesful----and whether you want to admit it or take the view of a couple of others on this board, we need a f irst baseman with power this season, and we certainly will need one in the future since we do NOT have one legitimate power hitting first baseman anywhere in our farm system. Just in case you didn't follow what I was saying before I think this pretty much sums up my idea of such a switch.

All I know is that you think Mauro Gomez is our answer for first base this year. You have said nothing to the contrary and in fact have supported whatever the front office has done this off season, just as you supported everything they did last off season. When the team blew itself up by late Spring last year you conveniently fled the board. Yes, you were studying for finals; I'll take your word on it for that, but come off it---you mean you couldn't come back occasionally to defend your assinine support for a front office that screwed things up royally last season? So, what is your position on first base? Take a leap and stand a stand. I' be shocked if it is anything different from what the front office is currently saying, but go ahead and shock me.

I wonder if the Red Sox front office has even given that some consideration because I think the idea has real merit Dojii. Brentz is a RH power hitter and supposedly a good enough athlete to make the switch. It worked for Millar back in 2003. It is clear to most people here save a few front office pom pom wavers that Mauro Gomez is a bad scene either for the short term and most certainly for the long term. I get the impression also that for some reason the Sox are reluctant to make that move for Morse. Possibly the risk averse Cherington is once again living up to his worst instincts. You would think something positive has to break pretty soon.

Whiney douche? Getting personal numbnuts? Fine, if that's the way you want it. I can read you like a book User. You simply cannot bring yourself to take any kind of stand against the Red Sox party line because you're a brown nosed apologist and I almost wish (almost, that is) that the team goes into the tank just to see you flee the board like the gutless wonder you are. The only reason you are for Gomez has nothing to do with me; it has to do with the fact that the front office might support his playing first base. If suddenly they changed course and got a first baseman worth his salt you would reverse course and march straight in line like the worthless wooden soldier you are. Do yourself a favor and put me on ignore. You're not worth my time. Kiss assers never have been and you are among the worst around.

Papi will have to play first a few games at any rate when we play in NL parks, but to risk injury to one of our few authentic power hitters is insane. Just trade for Morse or Morneau and cut this stupid nonsense out. Aside from front office pom pom wavers User and MVP, most of the rest of know a platoon of Salty and Gomez is a recipe for both offensive and defensive disaster, not to mention that neither has ever been lauded for their baseball smarts.

Papi will have to play first a few games at any rate when we play in NL parks, but to risk injury to one of our few authentic power hitters is insane. Just trade for Morse or Morneau and cut this stupid nonsense out. Aside from front office pom pom wavers User and MVP, most of the rest of know a platoon of Salty and Gomez is a recipe for both offensive and defensive disaster, not to mention that neither has ever been lauded for their baseball brains.

As long a it is not Gomez!!!!!! We need a real first baseman we can count on, and one who has power, run poducing ability, and some success experience. Gomez hits on none of these. It would be a travesty if we went with him, and by a month or two we'd be looking to replace him anyway. Get a real first baseman and get one fast. If we cannot adjudicate the Napoli problem walk away from it.....finally!!!!!!!!!

Lucienbel, you shouldn't be surprised as this miserable turn of events unless you happen to feel that Cherington is a competent GM and just missed on this one. If you are like me and some others on this board who seem him much differently you shoulnt be surprised one bit. Benny the Boob is a total incompetent who is in way over his head. It is no surprise to me that he has been with the Red Sox since before Epstein and while some of the FO personnel have gone onto better and higher prestige jobs, Cherington is still with the same organization, only this time showing just how pathetic he is in such a position. This matter should have been resolved long ago and we should have another first baseman in tow by now, but if this keeps up and we get a platoon of Salty and Gomez you can just write the season off the moment it starts. The players on the team will see that the front office can't be serious about winning when they look over and see who is playing first, and they will know, if they don't already don't, that Cherington is one cheesey moron who should never been put in this position in the first place.

Please Dojii, don't tell me you actually support such an idiotic Red Sox scenario at this. Bad enough we have some apologists and ball washers on this board who applaud on cue everything the front office does with nary an original idea of their own, but for the Red Sox to move a miserable fielding catcher to first base where he'd be even worse and then to add a worthless career minor leaguer to the platoon mix is enough to make one want to reatch up his breakfast. The team will have surrendered any semblance of an improvement if they do something this stupid and idiotic. First of all Satalamacchia should be employed elsewhere by ST and Gomez should be given a one way ticket back to the DR, to Aruba, to Venezuela or even better to Zanzibar, but as far away from Fenway as can be managed.

Nonense!!!!!! By your skirting my question about choosing Gomez over Morse, you pretty much played the Cherington line that Gomez would be just fine for first base for the Red Sox this year and kept up your flunky party line support intact. If you had bothered to read the whole post I made it was clear that Morse has already proved he could hack on the big league level while your boy Gomez could not. And, please MVP, enough with the denials. You are a total party line follower in that whatever comes down from Yawkey Way is just fine and dandy with you, and until I see you finally take the front office to task for something wrong that they did, that is what I will consider as your person. And don't tell me you will criticize them for bungling when you see something to criticize because that is bogus for the simple reason that this front office has made one screwup after another the past few years. Wake up and smell the freakin' coffee.

You might be wasting your breath Sox Sport. Some of the front office boosters cannot see the ramifications of being so power short that Ortiz is going to need protection this season. He would get that in Morse; he most certainly would not get that with Gomez.

Are you sitting there and actually saying that you would take Gomez over Morse? Unless your out of your damn mind you simply cannot say that with a straight face or funtioning brain. Morse is a power hitter, Gomez is not. Morse has already proven himself as a capable power threat, Gomez has not. Morse can play both outfield and first, Gomez can only play first and is a butcher at third. Also MVP while you once again are taking the party line and trying to act at Cherington's cheer leader, we need at least one more power hitter in our lineup if for no other reason than to give cover to Ortiz unless we want to see him get one good pitch a game. There isn't that much power in the outfield unless you want to bet that Ellsbury will stay in one piece for a while year. The infield has average power with Middlebrooks and Pedroia and so so with Drew. Catching? Satalamacchia might not even be with us in the Spring, that is, if your boy Cherington has a semblance of a brain and understands that having him behind the plate means a much higher ERA by our pitchers. Therefore, who knows how much power we will get behind there. You see, unlike you, I do not have much faith in Cheringtons knowledge of the game or the sound reason for giving the job to Lavarnway. Well once more, we can agree to disagree.

That sort of makes sense to me Sox Sport but my innards are telling me that once again our sometimes bungling front office is playing with dynamite. If Morse is not traded for soon or is traded to another team and we then lose out on Napoli who signs elsewhere, we are looking at a real bad scene----- the possibility that we have to go with loser and life time minor leaguer Mauro Gomez at first, a guy who has little power, is a weak defensive player, cannot run worth s***, and is reputed to be dumber than a lamp. You don't win with a first baseman like that. Sure, I've have painted a worse case scenario but with the the people running our front office we been getting burned pretty badly by some of their miserable moves the past few years. My opinion is we should make the move for Morse. If we get Napoli we could play the guy in left field since he can play the outfield as well and it would give us another good power hitter. What I don't want is to have us wind up with nothing.

Not at all BSN. Like you I had a long and successful career in coaching baseball teams and as I mentioned to you in one of my posts, I did some bird dog scouting for some of my friends in that profession who liked my ability to judge talent. I think I know a loser or a baseball wasteful when I see one and Gomez fits that role. You don't win with a first baseman like that, and we need someone there who can either hit over 300 with moderate power and field the hell out of that position, or a guy who might not hit for a big average but can pole 30 or more homers and defend adeuately. Gomez can't do any of that and that is why at near 29 he has been a career minor leaguer all his baseball days. Putting on a Red Sox uniform does not suddenly turn a pumpkin into a prince. We need a good first baseman who can hit and can handle the pressure of a pennant race. Gomez doesn't fit there either and it is muy honest opinion that if he is stationed on first base he will soon be exposed for the poor player he is. W can do better if we want to at least have a winning record this season we had better upgrade at first base......and soon!!!!!!

Morse is a good option for this team for many reasons and one of them is that getting him means we don't have to get stuck with a bum career minor leaguer, power shy, piss poor base running, lousy fielding Mauro Gomez. That's just for a start. Morse can play both first base and the outfield, is a RH power hitter capable of hitting over 30 home runs for us and will be only 31 next season and could play for us for four or five years. Aside from that I have no idea why he'd be a good option for us. :dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno:

What is all this freakin' fascination with Justin Upton? Two years ago he was benched twice during the season for loafing and a bad attitude. He has underachieved, loafed and is a bad actor. We don't need shitkickers like this on our team. We had too many of that ilk here recently.

I don't think it is going to get done Spitball. What's more the other options are going to dry up and once again the front office's plans will blow up in their faces as we are forced to go with the miserable Mauro Gomez on first base to open the season. Buy June with the team possibly in the toilet and Gomez costing us games in the field and at-bat, they will try to put Salty on first and that will fail too. I've never felt as pessimistic about our chances to solve this problem as I do now. Cherington will have pretty much undone most of the good work he accomplished so far this winter, and the press, the fans and the wolves will out in force demanding Cherington's scalp while my worst opinions about him flare out in the open. To forestall that he must get his ass moving and sign or trade for a first baseman and do it by next week. This whole episode is so emblematic of the ineptness we've seen by those who run the team the past few years. :thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown

Gateway is a baseball term referring to first base.....the gateway position. Glad to help increase your baseball lingo acumen. Keep in touch.

Sorry Sox Sport but I totally disagree. Gomez is a career minor league who I'm told signed out of the DR ten or 11 years ago. He is close to 29 years of age and has never shown much ML potential to warrant more than one or two cops of coffee. Yes, I agree you give your young prospects a chance but this is no prospect. He is a journeyman, pure and simple and a guy of his ilk does not suddenly become a standout prospect at his age. For guys like Boegarts, Brentz, Bradley Jr, Barnes, etc, yes, you give them an opportunity to show what they can do, which we did with Middlebrooks and hope to do with Lavarnway, but Gomez is a losing propostion. The guy is a fill in and nothing more and we can and must do better at the gateway than a g uy with little power, poor base running instincts and very litle experience to show that he is Major League player, which is what we need at first base.....someone also who has either some good power or who has proven he can hit over 300.

Well I feel that way about Mauro Gomez, only 100 thousand times more intensely than you.

Personally I want to see Pedroia--1--A lifetime Red Sox player and 2--healthy this year so he can hit 305-20-84 or something in that vicinity. What we need this season is a real team effort from everyone, a commitment to leave it all on the field, come to ST with a determination to make up for what has recently taken place, and then play like the Red Sox played some years back when they were calling us the best team in baseball. Play our asses off.

You have to efen kidding me Palodios!!!!!!! Some of us knew for the past few years that Epstein had become pretty much of an empty ignorant suit but I think he has outdone himself this time. Darling Darnell and Bungling Brent? Well let the Cubbie fans gag on that one.....we need to sign a first baseman before too much longer.

You have to efen kidding me Palodios!!!!!!! Some of us knew for the past few years that Epstein had become pretty much of an empty ignorant suit but I think he has outdone himself this time. Darling Darnell and Babbling Brent? Well let the Cubbie fans gag on that one.....we need to sign a first baseman before too much longer.