For point number two, I would contend that confidence plays a big role in baseball on both sides of the diamond, if you've played you would probably agree - I think I remember you saying you played for kind of a while, no? When is a team more confident as a whole than when they're ace is going? To undermine Beckett's performance in that game, or say the outcome would have been the same with say Bronson Arroyo going that night, isn't fair, IMO. I don't think just because the sticks came alive it should be a knock on Beck, thats all.
I think Beckett's big game track record was part of the reason they Lucchino jumped on him, whether or not big game track record is the right criteria to go on is another thread entirely. Does it mean anything? Is it luck? Who knows, but of the 2 losses he suffered in the '03 post season he gave up a combined 2 ER in 14 innings and struck out 18. You can verify those numbers if you want, but I'm pretty confident in them even though they are from memory. Beckett has been my favorite player since he debuted. Which might taint my argument with a little bias, not gonna lie.
I think it is a win win either way. We keep him, we have the best shortstop in the game and the revenue to fix any weaknesses we addressed in the Beckett trade. I also am of the opinion that our WS victory was more the product of organization-wide success rather than the success of one trade in particular. Without Papelbon, Pedroia, Ellsbury, and Lester, things would certainly be different. I think over the next ten years we will see more organizational victories like '07, and attempting to trace them all back to one trade would be an exercise in futility.
Agree? Maybe we could have made out better with the value we had in Hanley. I don't think it was a catastrophic failure by any means, I think it was a moderate success. I do see Hanley do pretty beastly things and kind of wish and wonder... but hey, thats baseball.
I was a big fan of the idea of acquiring Burnett at the '06 deadline, just like I was a big fan of trading Damon in '05. We shoulda done it. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. If I knew all of those things, and I could put my Larry Lucchino pants on and take a walk through the FO that winter, I probably wouldn't make that particular deal even with my massive man-crush on Beckett. But, at the time, Hanley was coming off a less than inspiring AA season, his attitude was being called into question and his desire to become the player he had the potential to become wasn't exactly a sure thing. All of those things went into trading him. Sure, there were better possible moves. I don't doubt it. But we made out ok. We didn't get burned like we did in the Gagne trade. We don't even know how burned we were yet, wait until we start hearing about Engel Beltre.
I don't think Theo knows what he wants in a SS and I think it is really becoming a concern. One year he wants defense(O-cab), one year he wants offense (Renteria - who came here with a sparking Def. rep), then defense again(Gonzo
Only adamant that it wasn't a horrible thing. I don't think it is the end of the world because we came out with value. I do think Josh Beckett was a huge part of why we won, but I don't think got fair value when you just look at their players alone. That said, I like trading hitting for pitching. Especially prospective hitters for established pitchers. I think pitching, in large part, is much harder to come by so it doesn't really rub me wrong at all.
Jesus Hanley is good though.
This is the first post I've spent more than two minutes on in like a year. I love summer.