There's good reason for their optimism though. A rotation of Halladay, Burnett, Chacin, Lilly, and Towers is nothing to sneeze at. They under performed their Pythagorean Record by 8 wins last year (80-82 actual, 88-74 by runs scored and runs allowed), and that generally happens with the BP is weak. Say what you want about Ryan, but he has struck out more than 12 per 9 the last two years and is a very effective reliever, so I doubt they will miss their expected wins by that much again. And, with the additions of Glaus, Overbay, and Molina they should score more often than last year. They'll be tough in 2006.