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This is a very open question, what are you looking for? Value of the network? No idea, check Forbes, but that is unlikely to give you anything useful. Value added to the baseball team? That's discretionary to ownership and likely not public information. EDIT: However, Forbes has speculated that YES adds as much as $400M in revenues to the Yankees baseball operations. I fully admit, I do not expect MASN to add nearly that much value, but a reasonable fraction of that, even if you cut it in half (because of the Orioles), is nothing to ignore.
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To my knowledge, no. It is owned jointly by the Baltimore Orioles and the Washington Nationals.
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Hidden, what are you talking about? Forbes directly mentions that ownership of the regional broadcast network is how teams fill the revenue gaps and how reported revenues do not represent actual values. I'm not making this up. It's not hidden. It's common knowledge. You are the one using supporting information that does not account for this data.
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Network, network, network.......
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Nope, I think you are avoiding, so now I will not read it on principle.
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You are missing the point of my question. He has no relevance to this conversation. It was rhetorical because your response was out of left field an in no way addressed my comment. Anyway, I'll quit until you can resolve the gap in your argument to use the Forbes valuations....trust me you won't find it. I've read their valuations several times, they even acknowledge that they don't account for ownership of regional broadcast networks and how those offset/cover on the field loses. Ball is in you court, dude. Come with a cogent response or I'll respond with something equally off topic and jaded.
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Who the f*** is Carlos Slim, and what does he have to do with this conversation?
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Sure I do. You are missing a huge part of this. The Yankees and Sox are able to spend like they do because they hide revenues outside of the baseball team in their broadcast network. The Nats do the same thing. Forbes valuations don't account for these revenues. I would agree that a team, standing alone, was #X on the Forbes list should be considered in accordance with it's rank. The regional networks make the Forbes list irrelevant. It's good for determining what each team is worth, but it does not define their ability to take on risk. Other entities that are not accounted for impact that capability. And, again, you didn't know this. You are right in your text book conclusions, but you don't know the industry enough to soundly apply the theory.
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God you are incorrigibly lame. You just got your hat handed to you and you come up with this weak attempt to put it back on me. Whatever.
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Who cares who brings it in? Iortiz used international revenues in his argument as if they were exclusive to the big market teams. They aren't. They don't add to their spending power, revenues......get it? big market teams are defined by spending power......so the fact that they are shared renders them irrelevant in the consideration of big vs small market.
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Massive irrelevant popularity tanget.
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Rational means, from the dictionary..... agreeable to reason; reasonable; sensible What is resaonable about obsessiveness or compulsiveness? I got it right...again.
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Where have I contradicted myself? I said I wasn't interested in back-reading the thread, and I still have not done that.
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There was dispute at the outset. The O's, for a time, got compensation via MASN for the addition of the Nationals intruding on what they claimed was their market (DC), but it has been resolved with the Nats being part owners of MASN. I am familiar with it, because I grew up in the DC area.
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Still here.