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the point is rodriguez showed up for game 1-3 and 4-7 was no where to be found, except crying in the dugout after game 7. It just seems silly to hold it against him that the team has other good hitters on it. Vlad is a good candidate...way up there with Papi, and A-rod. I just think that Papi's "clutchness' stands above the rest. And his numbers are pretty darn good also. If anything...the whole DH argument is weak IMO. But that is the position he plays...

you really have no idea what you are talking about, stop talking out of your ass which you tend to do a lot. Rodriguez would sweep ortiz, huh? Just like last year...?

even in a 2-2 tie in the 11th inning in game 7 of the ALCS???? I highly doubt that.

Don't give me that bull about he doesn't play D!!!!! The MVP is about helping your team win. And nobody helps his team more than Big Papi. Where would the Yanks be without Arod? Probably where they are now! Where would the Sox be? 4th without Ortiz . The guy's so good in the clutch, he should have his own award!!!!!!!!! We'll call it the "Mr. LIH Award" Late Inning Heroics

Why do Yankee fans continually make the erroneous claim that Ortiz CAN'T play 1B? He can play the field just fine, and has. Francona has to put a DH in the lineup every game and Ortiz is very productive as a DH. It's a no-brainer. Some players need to play D to get "into the game" ...i'm sure if that were the case, he'd be out there and Millar would be DH. If being MVP were important to Ortiz, he might actually demand to play defense so voters couldn't use this against him. Of course, Papi is perfectly happy to do what is best for the team, and he takes great pride in doing as much as he can with his bat for that reason. THAT is what the MVP is supposed to be about. Ortiz is so much more the MVP than Arod it's laughable. Arod is all about Arod and it has always been so. He doesn't elevate anyone or anything...the fact that his teams never wins make that fairly obvious.

let's examine what the term mvp means...... most valuble player. it says nothing about playing defense. is there anyone in mlb that would hurt a team more to be without than ortiz. Guess what. Believe it or not the rules say that DH is a position so why shouldn't a DH be able to win MVP. A position is a position.

this is good news

like I had said before, many yankee fans are calling for Mariano to win the Cy Young, its the same argument here. And in The 80's Don Baylor as a DH, mind you, won the MVP for anaheim

I'm not counting them out, just out of the division. Our rotation is looking great (knock on wood) while the Yankees is still a mess from day-to-day. Manny's bat's comin' around and our starting line-up collective average is almost .300.

Game Info Date: Tuesday, September 13th, 2005 First Pitch: 7:07 pm ET TV: NESN Starting Pitchers: http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/tor.gif #37 Scott Downs (2-3, 4.19) http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/bos.gif #30 Matt Clement (13-4, 4.17) Clement out to give Sox series win Boston (84-59) at Toronto (71-72), 7:07 p.m. ET David Ortiz hit two home runs on Monday, including an 11th-inning game-winner in a 6-5 win over Toronto on Monday at the Rogers Centre. The win extended Boston's lead in the American League East to 3 1/2 games over the Yankees, who were idle on Monday. The victory also snapped a five-game losing streak for Boston in Toronto and improved its season mark against the Blue Jays to 4-8. Right-hander Matt Clement will take the mound for Boston in the second game of the three-game set. In his last start, Clement gave up three runs on six hits in 6 2/3 innings against the Angels on Sept. 8. He will be opposed by left-hander Scott Downs, who only lasted 4 1/3 innings in his last outing after giving up four runs on seven hits on Sept. 7 at Baltimore. Pitching matchup BOS: RHP Matt Clement •*13-4, 4.17 ERA in 2005 •*0-1, 8.49 ERA vs. TOR in 2005 TOR: LHP Scott Downs •*2-3, 4.19 ERA in 2005 •*0-0, 4.91 ERA vs. BOS in 2005 Player to watch Kevin Millar (1-for-4) and Bill Mueller (1-for-2) each have just one hit, a home run, in their career against Downs. Quotable "You've got to have good stuff, we all know that, but the poise he showed and the way he competes -- that's so big for us." -- Boston manager Terry Francona, on Jonathan Papelbon Quick hits With a single in the second inning on Monday, Millar extended his hitting streak to 11 games. ... Papelbon earned his first Major League win after allowing no hits in three scoreless innings on Monday. ... Boston now leads the all-time series against Toronto, 220-168 (111-84 on the road). ... Ortiz hit two homers on Monday and now has eight multi-home run games in his career. ... Ortiz became the first Red Sox hitter to hit 40 home runs in back-to-back seasons since Carl Yastrzemski in 1969-70. On deck •*Wednesday: at Toronto, 7:07 p.m. ET •*Thursday: vs. Oakland, 7:05 p.m. ET •*Friday: vs. Oakland, 7:05 p.m. ET

If A-rod gets another MVP, it should be when he is the main drive in getting his team to the playoffs and the World Series. He hasn't done that yet. Sheffield almost did it last year but he was juiced with the 'mystery' $30,000 cream he bought...I still can't figure how he got an MVP win when he was with the Rangers and they were in last place. How does that work?? If you go by the numbers but Ortiz has more big game/game winning HR's/Hits than Arod this year. + his over all #'s are a bit better. Now I know A-Rod has a higher avg and OB% and 41 jacks but 24 of those HR's are solos, which are nice but only 1 run. I'd rather a guy hit a 2b with risp than a solo hr any day. It's kinda like a high flying dunk in basketball, sure looks good but it counts the same as a layup and I'd rather have the guy drain a 3ptr.

First off I'd like to say that although I throughly have no respect for Arod, I can't hid the fact that I do respect his abilities and skills as a ball player. He truly is one of the top ball players of the last 10 years and deserves most of the praise shot in his direction. His #'s and production are all top notch but the reason I don't think he's the MVP this year is simple; he's not a clutch hitter. Here are his batting #'s w/ runners on base compared to Ramirez and Ortiz this season. W/ runners on-base A-Rod 17hr, 86rbi, .293 avg, 266ab Papi 15hr, 101rbi, .311avg, 254ab Manny 26hr, 113rbi, .337avg, 246ab w/RISP A-Rod 6hr, 63 rbi, .273avg, 161ab Papi 7hr, 80rbi, .345avg, 142ab Manny 17hr, 94rbi, .345avg 144ab W/RISp +2 out A-Rod 4hr, 31 rbi, .281avg, 71ab Papi 5hr, 33rbi, .370avg, 54ab Manny 5hr, 34rbi, .297avg, 64ab MVP's hit when it counts most, MVP's drive in the runners on-base, MVP's come up big in big situations and if there's anybody who personifies those qualities it's Papi. On a side note for all you Manny haters look at those #'s w/RISP, freggin sick, he's like a shark when blood's in the water with men on base.....but Ortiz still gets my vote over manny

marcus willaims gets probation......18 months plus 400 hours of community service.* Granted the accelerated program, so if he successfully completes, his record will be wiped clean. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2160591 Williams was in the most jeopardy, being caught on tape trying to fence the goods.* Price was mostly along for the ride, so he will get a less stiff sentence. Now let's see what the Student Review Board, or whatever it's called in Storrs, does to them.

Where would the sox be without ortiz? done. He is the best clutch hitter in baseball. He wins more games than any other hitter. and if you don't think DH's can win the MVP: Don Baylor as a DH for anaheim in the 80's

has there EVER been a more clutch hitter than Papi????

if i was in that dugout id f***in open up a can of whoop ass on tit....o

f***! wtf TITO

foulke K's catalanotto

5-2

bases loaded, 0 outs bye bye bronson...

i'm torn, should I do this trade? I get: QB Favre WR Stokley WR Randel- El DEF Buffalo He gets: QB Roethlisberger WR Owens WR K. Johnson DEF. New England

Nothing really exciting went on this week. I wasn't really surprised with the results of any of the games (SF obviously, and the Bucs to some extent), and the overall quality of play was bad. The defenses are still way ahead of the offenses.

HUUUUUGE double play

leadoff double, misplayed by Kap

looks like we chased lily out of there.