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^^haha yes.

You will obviously say you would take Durant if you're just a casual basketball fan that maybe watches a game here and there and looks at stats. Throw stats out the window, Durant is obviously the best player on that team, and commands how they play. Oden is on a team that is a National Championship contender with a lot of good pieces including a great point man in Conley Jr. and a great wing player/PF combo in Cook and Harris. You'll look at the stats and Durants will wow you. What you don't see in the box score is the impact they have on the game. Oden's impact on the game is so much bigger than Durants. Durant is flashy and gets the stats, Oden still puts up great stats, but has a bigger and more important affect on the game. He puts fear in guys driving to the hoop. Just last night he had two beastly blocks, and Purdue wasn't driving often in fear of Oden. Teams don't have that fear of Durant. Sure ,they'll double Durant; they double Oden too. Durant will put up better NBA statistics, but Oden will be an even better player. It's like David Robinson for example: one of the best centers of all time. In this era where wing players dominate, his accomplishments are diminished because he never put up the "ESPN Top 10" dunks or moves, and didn't score 30 PPG. I love how Durant plays, and he will be a star too, but you CAN'T pass on a center that only comes around every so often like Oden. Name me the last team who won a championship without a dominant big man. The Bulls in '98? Even then, those teams were completely different since they had Jordan. Without any Jordan teams, because having MJ would transcend having any great big man, and it's the 1990 Pistons. Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon, etc, without them the Lakers, Spurs, Rockets, Heat, never win championships. Lets just look at this more in depth: 2006 Finals: Miami Heat (Shaq) def. Dallas Mavericks (Dirk) 4-2. 2005 Finals: San Antonio Spurs (Duncan) def. Detroit Pistons (Sheed/Wallace) 4-3. 2004 Finals: Detroit Pistons (Sheed/Wallace) def. Los Angeles Lakers (Shaq) 4-1. 2003 Finals: San Antonio Spurs (Duncan) def. New Jersey Nets (can you consider K-Mart here? 17/8 that year) 4-2. 2002 Finals: Los Angeles Lakers (Shaq) def. New Jersey Nets (no big man, swept. coincidence?) 4-0. 2001 Finals: Los Angeles Lakers (Shaq) def. Philadelphia 76ers (Motumbo/Ratliff had very very good years) 4-1. 2000 Finals: Los Angeles Lakers (Shaq) def. Indiana Pacers (Dale Davis??? haha averaged a double double) 4-2. 1999 Finals: San Antonio Spurs (Duncan) def. New York Knicks (Ewing) 4-1. The list goes on... Bulls with Rodman, Jazz with Malone, Sonics with Kemp, Rockets with Olajuwon, Magic with Shaq, Suns with Barkely. YOU DO NOT PASS ON A CENTER LIKE ODEN FOR A WING PLAYER LIKE DURANT.

Durant may be the better college player right now, but Oden will be the better NBA player. You don't pass on a once in a decade center to get a wing player, which you can find plenty of solid ones in the NBA.

^^haha faggot

haha did anyone else witness how bad federer shitted on roddick the other day? i watched the match at 330 in the morning and wow i was impressed, best ive ever seen him play.

haha ill holla at her tomorrow night then

Most Pats fans are acting like faggots. Give Manning and the Colts some credit. They played well, they played hard, they deserved it. They flat out beat us. That being said I won't complain if Manning and the Colts win it all. That'll bring this whole rivalry to an entirely new level that would just be f***ing sweet.

^^Said thats what should and would happen from the start.

I'd be so pumped if we could get Jarvis Moss. I LOVE that kid.

Great deal for Denver. They get a true point man who's a good ball distributor, and has great vision on the court. They also got some cap relief which was the biggest thing they got. Steve Blake is going to have a bigger impact than most of you think.

people will say it was a bonehead play, but it was what anyone else would have done. 99.9% of the time he sticks that landing, throws the dunk down, and is fine.

^^What a f***ing sick game that was^^ Haha I was at the Bruins game, and I was sititng in front of a box that had it on, and I caught hte end of it.

i was there.. i posted this on a bball forum i post at but figured id post it here too since it goes with the thread I finally had my last straw with Wally, haha. After the game I stood there and screamed "WALLY YOU f*cking SUCK I f*cking HATE YOU". I can't stand him any more. His shots aren't falling. He doesn't move without the ball. He can't run well. His defense is nonexistant. And especially tongiht, with Gerald playing oh so well. Past Wally, and Doc, who seemed as if he was pulling names out of a hat tonight, I thought the Celtics played great. I would have never thought it would have came down to a last second miss. Tony and Gerald played GREAT defense on LeBron. In the first quarter Tony was AMAZING denying LeBron of the ball and the Cavs made the adjustment and let LeBron bring it up some and get it to him higher up. But both of these guys played great D on him, and that just goes to show how good LeBron actually is. They were in his face nearly every shot, and he was still drilling them. But them two played great, as did Al who was on a roll on offense, but like you said, couldn't really handle Illgauskus' size. Delonte played pretty well again, at one point it looked like he aggrivated his back again, but he got back up and gutted it out. Boy do I love that about this kid, he's willing to do anything to play and win. I also thought Bassy played EXTREMELY well. He ran the game so well, and was very nice offensively. Tony was so good tonight, that it almost seems unfair that he had to miss that free throw. The kid has worked very very hard and came a long way since his early season stuggles. I respect Tony for that. He stuck with it and is playing well. That was a gritty game by this team tonight, they played a lot better than I thought they would have and I was really surprised at that. They're scrappy, they fight. I like to see that in such a young team.

While I agree with Papelbon that bowls are important for college football, there's just too many controversies. If they can somehow come up with a better way to get a championship game, and then the bowls, I'd be all for it, but until then, playoffs.

OK so I just had my last straw with Doc Rivers last night... Gerald played the first 4 minutes, and missed one rotation on the defensive end off of a pick, and Doc decides to sit him. For Gerald he brings in Wally, who proceeds in shooting 3-17, while playing defense worse than I could if I had only one leg. Wally made 15-20 mistakes the whole game, not including all of his misses, these mostly include his bad passes and goofed up defensive assignments. Wally is a good shooter, but IMO he can't play in this league much longer. The league is getting more athletic while he is getting less athletic, he couldn't keep up with anyone he had to defend, from Pietrus to Davis. Not only is Doc Rivers completely f***ing this team to tears, as Mr Crunchy put it, he doesn't know how to coach. He's down 11 with 4 minutes, left, not completely out of the game yet, he puts in Powe and Ray. He doesn't get Al enough touches on the block. He plays Wally at the wrong times and refuses to take him out when he does things that he'd sit guys like Gerald and Telfair for. Granted he's without his best player, but at least the guy should know how to manage a game. I also have know idea why he continues to play Wally. Its obvious he doesn't fit in, you can't run with him in there because he's a liability, his shooting has been off for a long long time, and he can't play a lick of defense on anyone, aside from Adam Morrison he may be the worst defender in the NBA. I have no problem with losing, but when we lose the way we do, with coaching mistakes, with Doc taking Gerald out for ONE mistake, for leaving Wally in even though he can't play for his life any more, for not playing Rondo, his 2nd best point guard. Doc has made maybe 2 smart decisions all year. 1) Letting Delonte start, as it was evident he is much much much better at the point rather than the 2, and 2) Putting Al in the starting lineup too. Thats it, nothing else good has came from Doc. I hate Glenn Rivers.

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I'm with you. I absolutely love NCAA Basketball, moreso than the NBA. The only NBA games I can watch are the Celtics.. I can watch any NCAA game. IMO The PF that we need that can ass rape his grandma without remorse can be Perkins. He has shown flashes of rebounding of playing with a mean streak, but the kid can't contain it and he gets into foul trouble in seconds. Ainge has gone a long way at least recovering from the Pitino Massacre with some very very good draft picks. He's made some questionable signings and trades, but he has the team headed in the right direction. IMO if we can flip Wally for an expiring contract, to clear cap room and sign 1-2 veteran guys this offseason, and bring basically the same roster back with those two additions, we can be players in the East. Lets not forget Pierce willed this team to the ECFs just 4-5 years ago with a cast of Antoine Walker, Kenny Anderson, Erick Strickland, Tony Battie, Eric Williams, Vitaly Potapenko, Joe Johnson (boy was it a mistake giving up on him), Rodney Rogers, Walter McCarty, and Tony Delk. If we can get the vets and Al, Allen, and Gerald continue to come along, this team could be a big player in the East next year. Hopefully Danny doesnt fudge this huge opportunity of Paul Pierce and this developing youth up.

I did say Joakim Noah was overrated, I'm glad you can read. He's overrated because he's IMO not worth a top 5-10 pick like people are saying. He plays with more passion and harder than anyone else while playing solid defense (See: Greg Oden vs. Florida, 2-6 FGs 7 points). He is worth a mid-late first round pick because of his defense and offensive potential. He doesn't have allstar potential, maybe starter potential at best. His offensive game is still raw (yes even as a senior), but he has a big body and long arms which will help him once he gets to the NBA. That potential combinded with defense can give him a mid-first round pick, but teams are drooling over (and overrating) his leadership factor and he's looking at going top 5-10 which IMO he shouldn't. Offense, careless fouls, bites on shot fakes, not very athletic, nonexistant post moves, below avg mid range shooter, terrible jumpshot form, and hes a tweener. Yes a lot of knocks but there is some untapped potential which may or may not be reached. But I still think he will improve enough upon getting to the NBA enough to be a solid role player/starter. He's a high energy guy, does the small things, which are the biggest things he has working for him right now.

All 4 of those guys are very very good, and as freshmen you need to remember they may or may not come out. Oden (the OSU guy you were talking about) is the only one semi NBA ready. He has the body and defensive mindset but his offensive game is still rather raw and his repetoire of low post moves is rather small, as exploited by Florida by Horford and Noah (OVERRATED) last weekend. He's a very humble guy, and I don't believe he will peace it from OSU that quickly. Durant is a very very good player, but his offensive game is still raw, as is his defense. He will probably come out but he would benefit from another year of college. But this kid is a player the Celtics don't need. He's so similar to Gerald Green (oversized wing with hall of fame offensive potential). I like Wright a lot but he's too much of a project for the Celtics to wait on. His body isn't ready and isn't as hard of a worker as he could be. Reminds me of a KG type of player, and could get there if he starts to work harder. Thabeet is another raw guy offensively, but he is the 2nd best shot blocker in the nation behind BC's Sean Williams (this guy is a freak, he can be had next season with a mid first round pick I think). Thabeet reminds me of Motumbo and Ratliff a lot because of his size and shot blocking ability. But offensively, he's basically nonexistant. All these guys can be had, but IMO with the Celtics pick they have on their own they can get a player that is more ready than any of these guys and will be of much more benefit now than say 3 years down the road. Waiting for Al to come around has been a pain in the ass and I don't think Danny is ready to do that again, especially after locking up Pierce. Guys I'd like the Celtics to look at are Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Al Thornton, and Kyle Visser, and to a lesser extent Tyler Hansbrough. All (except Hansbrough) are NBA ready big men who are good post defenders and can come into the NBA and be a steady role player and defender off the bench.

haha i was offered free tickets to the game but didn't take them because i couldn't bear to watch it i do agree this season is f***ed to s***, but danny ainge is IMO one move away from being a contender next season. al is playing like everyone expected him to and he will only get better i admit the play has bene terrible the last three games but this team is terrible without pierce. wally and perk were back but both were rusty and will get better. the clippers are a good team, just underachieved so far this year. the way allen and jefferson are playing, with pierce back in the mix and wally and telfair bolstering the 2nd unit, IMO this team can make the playoffs, and maybe even win the division, dont forget they're only 2 games back tank the season? what will draft picks do? we already have the youngest team in the NBA. 9 of the guys on the roster have 3 years or less of experience, so getting picks will only make our biggest weakness, youth, even worse. gerald, allen, and jefferson are all showing they're going to be even better than they're playing now down the road, so why get more? this team cant get used to losing and if they want any shot at winning in the future it'd be wise of them to use this season to learn how to win games down the stretch.

they're 10-14 with pierce and they were playing a lot better... imo in the east 35 wins is not out of reach providing no one else gets hurt anymore, and doc keeps tony and al with consistent minutes now that wally and perk are back.

yeah try saying the same thing when pierce gets back. obviously a team without their best player is pathetic. btw anyone see the knicks game last night? f***ing crazy. Delfino hits a game tying three with 5 left in regulation. Frye hits a crazy shot to go into triple OT. Rip first player since MJ I think to get 50 at MSG.

big papi will f*** mad bitches

yeah cp3 getting hurt pisssed me off