Yeah, they were I think, but they were making them, and we did real well in the playoffs (for a Celtics team from this era) that year. Hated to see 'Toine go. He's not really a great player, but damnit he was a leader, and made this team tick. I still remember that game when we were down 21 to the Nets with like 15 minutes to go or something, and during a time out he was yelling at everyone, and we came back and won it. Playoff game too. They always play highlights of it at the Garden. I have that announcer from NBC (was it NBC?) stuck in my head. "AND THE GREATEST COMEBACK IN NBA HISTORY IS COMPLETE." That was probably one of my happiest moments as a Celtics fan.