Marte and Nady trade revisited

[jacksonianmarch]

So in 2008, the Yankees dealt Jose Tabata, Ross Ohlendorf, Jeff Karstens and Daniel McCutchen to the Pirates for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte. At the time, a lot of people one here thought this was an absolute fleecing by the Yankees. And at the time, it looked like that could be the case. But the two guys I was not very keen on letting go have turned this trade into a steal for the Pirates.

 

In terms of Nady, the Yankees got a .794OPS to close out a non-playoff run in 2008. He blew out his arm in 2009 and left via FA the following offseason

 

In terms of Marte, he never was healthy after we got him. In 2008, he got shelled and had some shoulder soreness. After that season, he was signed to a 3yr $12 million contract. In 2009, he was on the shelf most of the season, but appeared in 8 games a postseason that culminated in a WS victory and was crucial to that run. In 2010, he started out wild and ended up on the shelf again. Now comes word that he needs surgery and will be out until the ASB in 2011. Needless to say, aside from 8 brilliant appearances in the 2009 post-season, he's been a major bust.

 

Now, onto the 4 guys the Pirates got. We can start with the 2 duds. Karstens has barely been a #5 level starter and looks like a AAAA player. McCutchen was terrible this season and is very likely on his way to being DFAd.

 

But the two I was concerned about dealing away have proven themselves rather effective. Ohlendorf has gone a misleading 12-21 in his 2 seasons with the Pirates, and this season culminated with a liner off his skull. But his peripherals have seen a WHIP around 1.30 in his 2 seasons with the Pirates as well as a solid GB rate. He looks like he could be an effective innings eater out of the back of their rotation

 

And onto the hottest ticket we dealt away, Jose Tabata. Tabata just turned 22 in August and made his MLB debut. Well he hit .299, had an OPS in the mid .700s and stole 19 bases in 102 games. He is very likely to be their leadoff hitter next yr with McCutchen moving into a more traditional RBI role. And at his young age, he should develop some power along the way.

 

So all in all, the Yankees got two guys whose arms gave out and in total only received 8 games worth of LH specialist relief appearances in a playoff run. And in return, gave away one of the best looking young OFers in the NL not named Heyward and a blossoming innings eater with a solid sinker. While many on here were looking at this as a fleecing, it appears we are the ones who got fleeced

[ORS]

And in return' date=' gave away one of the best looking young OFers in the NL not named Heyward ...[/quote']

Or (not named):

 

Colby Rasmus

Mike Stanton

Logan Morrison

Jay Bruce

Tyler Colvin

Andrew McCutchen

Carlos Gonzalez

Justin Upton

Matt Kemp

 

All in the NL, all 25 and under, all with seasons more impressive than Tabata's. Other than those 9 ommissions, solid analysis.

[jacksonianmarch]

I liked him as a prospect. I knew we needed to move him, and we had to sell low unfortunately. Yeah, those guys listed have more power potential or actually more now power. But I think Tabata is going to be a hell of an OFer, and his debut in 100 games as essentially a 21 yr old was impressive.

[Meh]

Tabata is not 22, he's not even 25. I believe their GM said he was more like 26 about a year ago.