Should they blow-up Fenway?

[YeAuldBroade]

 

Ok... Yes, I know it's historic and cozy .... but I really dislike Fenway Park, passionately. The seats are too small and there's no leg-room. Many of the seats have obstructed views, most of the right field seats face the monster instead of the diamond. The facilities are sub-par with some downright disgusting. The area it's in is overcrowded, it takes hours to get home after a game and there's too little parking.

 

Sure the Monster is cool.. but you can build a green wall anywhere.

[bsox0407]

 

Ok... Yes, I know it's historic and cozy .... but I really dislike Fenway Park, passionately. The seats are too small and there's no leg-room. Many of the seats have obstructed views, most of the right field seats face the monster instead of the diamond. The facilities are sub-par with some downright disgusting. The area it's in is overcrowded, it takes hours to get home after a game and there's too little parking.

 

Sure the Monster is cool.. but you can build a green wall anywhere.

 

Please search before you post. This is post has already been this offseason.

[yeszir]

Please search before you post. This is post has already been this offseason.

 

 

Yea, YeAuldBraude. This post has already BEEN, dammit.

[bsox0407]

 

Yea, YeAuldBraude. This post has already BEEN, dammit.

 

Sorry i omitted a word maybe i should re-read my work before posting. lol

[YeAuldBroade]

You seriously expect posters to search history going back months, years before posting? bsox0407 may I suggest you just put me on ignore because I ain't doing it.

 

Furthermore... There are so few threads and so few posts - don't discourage someone who's at least trying to start topics for people to post on.

[bsox0407]

You seriously expect posters to search history going back months, years before posting? bsox0407 may I suggest you just put me on ignore because I ain't doing it.

 

Furthermore... There are so few threads and so few posts - don't discourage someone who's at least trying to start topics for people to post on.

 

It was like last month that it was posted along with one on what is your second favorite team.

[Northern Star]

Yes, they should. 100 years is enough. Build a new one with the exact same dimensions, but obviously a bigger capacity, and all the bells and whistles.

 

Oh, and my second favorite team is the Yankees.

[YeAuldBroade]

"It was like last month that it was posted along with one on what is your second favorite team."

 

Then definitely put me on ignore.. because I'm going to just keep creating them, sorry.

 

But great idea, keep discouraging activity. :thumbsup:

[YeAuldBroade]

Yes, they should. 100 years is enough. Build a new one with the exact same dimensions, but obviously a bigger capacity, and all the bells and whistles.

 

Oh, and my second favorite team is the Yankees.

I would love a few bells and whistles. You see all the amenities at these other parks and you drool.

[Northern Star]

I would love a few bells and whistles. You see all the amenities at these other parks and you drool.

 

Except that stadiums nowadays are about marketing and maximizing the revenue streams more than about seeing a game. The ticket prices in NY are outrageous, and of course Boston would follow suit. I'm really not into $500 for a ticket with free food. No way am I getting anything close to value for that, even if I stuff my face every inning.

[Northern Star]

Sorry i omitted a word maybe i should re-read my work before posting. lol

 

Please search the dictionary before you post.

 

*High-fives YeAuldBroade*

[YeAuldBroade]

Except that stadiums nowadays are about marketing and maximizing the revenue streams more than about seeing a game. The ticket prices in NY are outrageous' date=' and of course Boston would follow suit. I'm really not into $500 for a ticket with free food. No way am I getting anything close to value for that, even if I stuff my face every inning.[/quote']

Well if you've ever tried to buy tix off StubHub or ACE - paying $100 for crap seats is the norm.

 

And the "normal" seats are never going to be that expensive. The luxury suites at Fenway are already that amount. I've been in them (business) and they do have great food etc. but the game comes second to the "atmosphere" (and shrimp).

[YeAuldBroade]

Please search the dictionary before you post.

 

*High-fives YeAuldBroade*

 

Thanks.

[Northern Star]

Well if you've ever tried to buy tix off StubHub or ACE - paying $100 for crap seats is the norm.

 

And the "normal" seats are never going to be that expensive. The luxury suites at Fenway are already that amount. I've been in them (business) and they do have great food etc. but the game comes second to the "atmosphere" (and shrimp).

 

Normal seats at Yankee Stadium start at $315 and, I think, $200 at Citi Field. Citi's two lowest prices are $60 for the front of the nosebleeds and $35 for whatever the left field porch is, and the rest of the nosebleeds. Meanwhile, $35 gets you a good box seat in Pittsburgh and maybe $20 more than that in Cleveland.

[msubulldogs21]

I know it's old, I know it's cramped, I know if you're over 5'2'' and 120 pounds you don't fit into the seats comfortably, but I love it anyway. So no, I'm not for blowing up Fenway.

[msubulldogs21]

Normal seats at Yankee Stadium start at $315 and' date=' I think, $200 at Citi Field. Citi's two lowest prices are $60 for the front of the nosebleeds and $35 for whatever the left field porch is, and the rest of the nosebleeds. Meanwhile, $35 gets you a good box seat in Pittsburgh and maybe $20 more than that in Cleveland.[/quote']

 

I went to a Reds game weekend before last for $5 and proceeded to sit about 20 rows up from the dugout.

[YeAuldBroade]

I went to a Reds game weekend before last for $5 and proceeded to sit about 20 rows up from the dugout.

That makes me want to cry.

[yankees228]

Normal seats at Yankee Stadium start at $315 and' date=' I think, $200 at Citi Field. Citi's two lowest prices are $60 for the front of the nosebleeds and $35 for whatever the left field porch is, and the rest of the nosebleeds. Meanwhile, $35 gets you a good box seat in Pittsburgh and maybe $20 more than that in Cleveland.[/quote']

 

What do you consider 'normal seats'?

[yeszir]

That makes me want to cry.

 

Because it was a Reds game?

[YeAuldBroade]

Because it was a Reds game?

 

[Dojji]

This team and this town could support a 50,000 seat stadium easy. Money's there, fan interest has *always* been there, sponsorships and financing are almost definitely there, all that's been missing is the, you know, stadium.

 

I'm 6'5", 350+LBS and built like a linebacker. If I lost all the weight I should probably lose it'd only get me down to about ~270 LBS. I will never go to Fenway. I can't sit in ordinary theater seating, I need special accommodation for college auditoriums, and I have to buy 2 tickets to fly coach. If Fenway's seats are even smaller than that I'd have my choice of doing hella damage to my knees and annoying the people behind me by standing the WHOLE game, or doing similar damage to my own hips by trying to pretend the seat is big enough for me. I'm not paying that kinda money to be that uncomfortable just to sit next to a bunch of drunks and watch a game I can watch on TV. Any 2 of the three (the drunks, the discomfort, the cost) and I'd be OK, but not all 3.

 

I don't think destroying Fenway is really necessary. If nothing else, it's a historic Massachusetts landmark. If you ask for a famous building in Massachusetts or Boston, Fenway's probably the first guess of most folks. It, or parts of it at least, should really be preserved for history, and maybe you could even break it out of mothballs for a few exhibition games or something just to keep the tradition alive. But seriously, get a new ballpark, Sox! I want to be able to take in a game AND be able to walk out of the stadium when we're done, is that really so much to ask?

[YeAuldBroade]

I'm 5'4" and a size 8. I can fit into the seats, comfortably - however all I usually end up doing is making some extra room for the shoulders, arms and asses of the behemoths on either side of me. Precisely like riding coach in an airplane.

[YeAuldBroade]

This team and this town could support a 50,000 seat stadium easy. Money's there, fan interest has *always* been there, sponsorships and financing are almost definitely there, all that's been missing is the, you know, stadium.

 

I don't see how they could create a 50,000 seat stadium in the Fens. Where could they expand it? I think you need to move the stadium out of the Fens.

[Dojji]

I don't think I said they'd have to build it in the fens. I'm up in eastern Maine, so I don't exactly know Boston like the back of my hand. One gets the idea the they could probably figure SOMETHING out.

[TheMino007]

The team could build a 45,000-50,000 seat stadium and probably sell out most games. Then maybe ticket prices could drop in the bleacher seats, but I can't imagine how expensive seats behind the plate or Monster seats would be in a new stadium. Then again, if they do build a new stadium, I'm not sure if I want another Green Monster. The Green Monster, the Triangle, Pesky's Pole, the bizarre varying heights of the OF walls going from 40 feet in left to 6 feet in right, are what make Fenway, Fenway. I don't want to see that in another park. If you think about it, why the f*** would you have a 40 foot wall in a new stadium? Wasn't the Green Monster built for a reason back in the day? Something to keep more balls off the road or something? Anyway, 2012, 100 years, should be the last year for Fenway

[TedWilliams101]

I think we should blowup the OP. Here's to another 100 years of Fenway! http://www.thedachshundnetwork.com/vbb/images/smilies/3_21%20smileys/1948_beer_mug_cheers.gif

[Dojji]

The team could build a 45' date='000-50,000 seat stadium and probably sell out most games. Then maybe ticket prices could drop in the bleacher seats, but I can't imagine how expensive seats behind the plate or Monster seats would be in a new stadium. Then again, if they do build a new stadium, I'm not sure if I want another Green Monster. The Green Monster, the Triangle, Pesky's Pole, the bizarre varying heights of the OF walls going from 40 feet in left to 6 feet in right, are what make Fenway, Fenway. I don't want to see that in another park. If you think about it, why the f*** would you have a 40 foot wall in a new stadium? Wasn't the Green Monster built for a reason back in the day? Something to keep more balls off the road or something? Anyway, 2012, 100 years, should be the last year for Fenway[/quote']

 

If they replace Fenway they should make a clean break. A brand-spanking-new stadium with all the modern conveniences and a conventional layout and bigger, more comfortable seats -- or else don't bother. I think only Fenway is Fenway, and that's pretty special, so they shouldn't try to just build a new Fenway. If they go modern they need to go modern ALL the way.

 

After all, that's what they did in building Fenway Park in the first place.

[BSN07]

I wouldn't mind them making a "new" Fenway, but when you see how beautiful a field like the Twins new can be it's hard to resist saying start from scratch.

[BoSox21]

If they replace Fenway they should make a clean break. A brand-spanking-new stadium with all the modern conveniences and a conventional layout and bigger, more comfortable seats -- or else don't bother. I think only Fenway is Fenway, and that's pretty special, so they shouldn't try to just build a new Fenway. If they go modern they need to go modern ALL the way.

 

After all, that's what they did in building Fenway Park in the first place.

 

Agree. Allow the new stadium to create it's own history, landmarks, quirks, etc.

[Rdsxmbnt]

I don't see how they could create a 50' date='000 seat stadium in the Fens. Where could they expand it? I think you need to move the stadium out of the Fens.[/quote']

 

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