Sox are last in Run Prevention

[rhet]

Things We Learned: Red Sox aren't preventing much of anything

By Alex Speier

Created 05/17/2010 - 2:38am

You might have heard something about the Red Sox’ run prevention blueprint this offseason. Thus far, it is failing in startling fashion.

 

After their 5-1 loss to the Tigers on Sunday, the Red Sox are now allowing 5.3 runs per game this season. That is the worst mark in the American League -- worse than the pitiful Kansas City Royals (5.2), who axed manager Trey Hillman, worse than the often overmatched Orioles (4.9) and worse than the underperforming Angels (5.0).

 

The team’s starting pitching was supposed to be its foremost strength. Recently, there have been signs that it can be that, but the performances have been too inconsistent to propel the club forward in the standings.

 

Sunday provided a microcosm. Starter John Lackey walked four in the first two innings, and by the fourth, the Sox were trailing 5-1. He looked great while breezing through the Tigers lineup over his final three frames, and he saved his bullpen by logging seven innings, but by then, an opportunity for the starter to set the tempo for his club already had been lost.

 

The numbers are the numbers. Lackey leads the Sox with five quality outings among his eight starts, but he still has a 4.86 ERA as his club nears the quarter pole of the season. The rotation has a 5.00 ERA, 12th in the American League and 27th in the majors. A group that was supposed to enjoy lengthy stretches of one quality start after another instead is tied for 11th in the AL with 18 such outings.

 

Interestingly enough, while everyone in the rotation aside from Daisuke Matsuzaka is considered to have above-average control, everyone except Matsuzaka [10] has been experiencing command issues of late. In the Detroit series, Clay Buchholz (5), Jon Lester (4) and Lackey (4) had the team’s first run of three straight starts of four or more walks since April 13-15, 2008.

 

As bad as the collective performance has been, the road gets no easier. After losing two of three to the Tigers, the Sox are about to encounter a Murderer’s Row of Murderer’s Rows.

 

In order, the team’s next 10 games will come against the Yankees (5.62 runs per game, tops in the majors), Twins (4.86, 9th), Phillies (5.56, 2nd) and Rays (5.32, 4th).

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[yeszir]

No surprise here. Although this is due to abysmal pitching rather than the lackluster performance of our "run preventing" defense.

[rhet]

No surprise here. Although this is due to abysmal pitching rather than the lackluster performance of our "run preventing" defense.

 

The surprise is that we're dead last. And the team is locked into this staff for several years.

 

The defense has also been abysmal.

[Dipre]

The surprise is that we're dead last. And the team is locked into this staff for several years.

 

The defense has also been abysmal.

 

Do you consider the team's defense to be abysmal as we speak?

[redsoxrules]

Do you consider the team's defense to be abysmal as we speak?

 

yes he does, Beltre ,Scutaro and Drew sucks

[rhet]

People who watch the games can draw their own conclusions.

[Dipre]

People who watch the games can draw their own conclusions.

 

Well from what i've seen by watching the games (and stats) the team defense has been performing pretty well since the start of May, with the notable exceptions of Bill Hall and Hermida when he plays.

 

As for the Run Prevention problems, how much of the pitching staff's suck can you blame on the D?

[Flynnatic10]

yes he does' date=' Beltre ,Scutaro and Drew sucks[/quote']

 

SUCK to be grammaticly (SP) correct

[redsoxrules]

SUCK to be grammaticly (SP) correct

 

and I give a s*** ?

[Flynnatic10]

and I give a s*** ?

 

yes. it is not proper english to say sucks when taling about more than 1 person

[rhet]

Well from what i've seen by watching the games (and stats) the team defense has been performing pretty well since the start of May, with the notable exceptions of Bill Hall and Hermida when he plays.

 

As for the Run Prevention problems, how much of the pitching staff's suck can you blame on the D?

 

A lot of it in April and some of it now. Although the errors (called and non-called) have slowed a bit, we're still seeing poor plays that don't show up on the stat sheet.

[Dipre]

A lot of it in April and some of it now. Although the errors (called and non-called) have slowed a bit' date=' we're still seeing poor plays that don't show up on the stat sheet.[/quote']

 

Name some non-Hall, non-Hermida examples of poor defensive play.

[redsoxrules]

yes. it is not proper english to say sucks when taling about more than 1 person

 

I still dont care

[rhet]

Name some non-Hall' date=' non-Hermida examples of poor defensive play.[/quote']

 

How about the Scutaro relay that dribbled into home as the run scored? That's an easy throw from just behind SS position, but we didn't make it.

[Dipre]

How about the Scutaro relay that dribbled into to home as the run scored? That's an easy throw from just behind SS position' date=' but we didn't make it.[/quote']

 

Different appreciations of "poor defensive play" i guess.

[italstallianion]

SUCK to be grammaticly (SP) correct

 

GRAMMATICALLY to be spelled correctly.

[Flynnatic10]

GRAMMATICALLY to be spelled correctly.

 

thats why i put an (SP) because i didnt spell it correctly.

[rhet]

Different appreciations of "poor defensive play" i guess.

 

Most people would call bad throws poor defense.

[Dipre]

Most people would call bad throws poor defense.

 

Not if you're making a relay that doesn't directly cause the run to score.

[italstallianion]

thats why i put an (SP) because i didnt spell it correctly.

 

 

 

But it's bad etiquette to criticise someone for poor grammar in a post in which you use equally poor spelling. It would have saved you some embarrassment to look up how to spell grammatically before attempting to use it. And that's ignoring all of the lowercase I's.

[rhet]

Not if you're making a relay that doesn't directly cause the run to score.

 

We were talking about Scutaro's relay throw, which if executed correctly, would have cut down a run at the plate.

[Flynnatic10]

But it's bad etiquette to criticise someone for poor grammar in a post in which you use equally poor spelling. It would have saved you some embarrassment to look up how to spell grammatically before attempting to use it. And that's ignoring all of the lowercase I's.

 

learn how to spell criticize before you criticize people about how they spell words

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

But it's bad etiquette to criticise someone for poor grammar in a post in which you use equally poor spelling. It would have saved you some embarrassment to look up how to spell grammatically before attempting to use it. And that's ignoring all of the lowercase I's.

 

You spelled criticize wrong, its wrong to be criticizing someone about criticizing someone when you cant spell Criticize correctly. Just saying.

[Dipre]

We were talking about Scutaro's relay throw' date=' which if executed correctly, would have cut down a run at the plate.[/quote']

 

But even if it was a poor throw, it was not thrown to the bleachers, the screen, the public, or thrown to the incorrect base.

[YeAuldBroade]

To this entire thread.

[italstallianion]

learn how to spell criticize before you criticize people about how they spell words

 

I am spelling criticise correctly. You Americans and your Z's. By the way, since when was "grammaticly" an accepted cultural variant?

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

I am spelling criticise correctly. You Americans and your Z's.

 

No you aren't. It has that squiggly line under it meaning it was spelled wrong.

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/criticize

[Spudboy]

learn how to spell criticize before you criticize people about how they spell words

 

I believe that is how the word is spelled in England.

[Flynnatic10]

I am spelling criticise correctly. You Americans and your Z's. By the way' date=' since when was "grammaticly" an accepted cultural variant?[/quote']

 

since i posted this

[italstallianion]

You spelled criticize wrong' date=' its wrong to be criticizing someone about criticizing someone when you cant spell Criticize correctly. Just saying.[/quote']

 

 

 

I spelled criticise correctly. At least you're just being a troll whereas the other kid is just stupid.