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Should Schilling get back in the rotation?  

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  1. 1. Should Schilling get back in the rotation?

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BOSTON -- When Curt Schilling spent a few minutes with the media on Friday to provide a progress report on his rehab, there was a sound and a pace to his voice that portrayed excitement and optimism. It is as if the big right-hander is getting to the point where he can envision a payoff to all of the work he's been doing in the weight room virtually every day for more than two months.

 

"There's no pain, no stamina issues, no strength loss, no lingering effects -- which is a huge plus," said Schilling. "I've said before and even through now, I haven't thrown yet. That's the big piece to this. I might go, I don't expect to, but there's a chance I could go out and throw next week and I'd just feel miserable, and it would all be for naught.

 

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080502&content_id=2627143&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

 

Okay who thinks he'll be decent enough to get back into the rotation, even if it's the 4 or 5 slot? Who here even wants him back?

 

The way I see it, if he can give us what he gave us last year, which I know wasn't a lot, but decent, considering his age and what not, we could really use him, I think atleast.

 

Hopefully he'll do some rehab starts in Triple-A like last year before coming back up. I'd prefer that instead of him coming back straight up and getting bombed on his first outting.

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Right now, our rotation pwns. You don't play around with that. Now if someone is stinking up the joint later on when/if Schilling is ready to go, that's a different question.
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Curt has earned it, IF, and I mean a huge if he can pitch, he deserves a spot in the rotation to at least see what he can do.

 

What really sucks is that if him and Colon are healthy, someone will get the bump I believe, although nobody has deserved it. Everyone has pitched really well.....on the other hand, look at the Yankees who cant even scrape together 5 starters...too many starting pitchers is a good problem to have, it puts you in a position of power and leverage over other teams.

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I'd love to have him back cause one of the following is likely: Dice-K goes to s*** in August like last year, Lester starts struggling again, Wakefield gets injured or Buchholz tails off.

 

Although I still dont expect anything from Curt this season, like the old saying goes, you can never have too much starting pitching

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If and when Schilling comes back we will be seeing him the bullpen. The Sox have a good solid rotation right now and Franco isn't going to mess around with it. Plus I don't see Schilling being able to go long into games anymore he's just getting too old. I think he'll end up a middle reliever or something.
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If and when Schilling comes back we will be seeing him the bullpen. The Sox have a good solid rotation right now and Franco isn't going to mess around with it. Plus I don't see Schilling being able to go long into games anymore he's just getting too old. I think he'll end up a middle reliever or something.

 

If there's one thing we've learned about Francona, it's that he loves his veterans. Do you seriously believe that Schilling wouldn't be placed into the rotation if he was cleared to pitch?

 

Oh, and remember what happened last time Schilling came out of the bullpen? It's not where he's meant to pitch. Francona will place him in the rotation if he's capable of pitching, if not only for the fact that he's a veteran.

 

Should Schilling come back into the rotation? Only if there is a starter who's struggling after Colon has been given a shot.

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He could make some starts in August and September to lesson the load on Buchholz. He has a set amount of innings the Sox FO is extemely strict about. I think its 180-190. I would imagine at this point in time hes on that track for that amount for just the regular season. He will need to skip some starts to beable to throw innings in the Playoffs(if they are in that position, I'm trying not to take it for granted:D)
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Estimating he might play catch in seven to 10 days counts as news these days for Schilling, who still hopes to pitch this season.

 

"I never thought otherwise," Schilling said. "If I didn't believe absolutely that I'd have a ball in a World Series game, I wouldn't be doing this. There's a lot of things that have to happen between now and then. There's an assumption, I think, for some people that don't really think about this - which most people probably don't - this is not just about me getting healthy and coming back. I have to be good. I'm not just going to get the ball because I'm a starting pitcher. I'm going to have to be good. Last I looked this rotation didn't have a hole in it."

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/05/03/rehabbing_schilling_hopes_to_catch_a_break/

 

Bold added.

 

Curt Schilling is on the cusp of Hall of Fame selection. One more "heroic" postseason run would seal the deal. That's what's going on here, and that's why I believe that Curt Schilling is VERY strongly motivated to return in September.

 

We'll know more in two weeks.

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He could make some starts in August and September to lesson the load on Buchholz. He has a set amount of innings the Sox FO is extemely strict about. I think its 180-190. I would imagine at this point in time hes on that track for that amount for just the regular season. He will need to skip some starts to beable to throw innings in the Playoffs(if they are in that position' date=' I'm trying not to take it for granted:D)[/quote']

 

It not about Clay Buchholz, it's about Curt Schilling. The whole deal this season is about rehabbing him to make quality starts down the stretch and in the playoffs. It is mutually exclusive of any other pitcher's inning limits or situation. Curt Schiiling at 75% in the playoffs can still be a bigger menace to the opposition than most pitchers can be at 100%.

 

Given his past performances, his experience, and the size of his balls in a money situation on the mound, I'd spend the better part of the year trying to get him ready for September/October. Given his age and physical status, it probably will be his swan song.

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It not about Clay Buchholz, it's about Curt Schilling. The whole deal this season is about rehabbing him to make quality starts down the stretch and in the playoffs. It is mutually exclusive of any other pitcher's inning limits or situation. Curt Schiiling at 75% in the playoffs can still be a bigger menace to the opposition than most pitchers can be at 100%.

 

Given his past performances, his experience, and the size of his balls in a money situation on the mound, I'd spend the better part of the year trying to get him ready for September/October. Given his age and physical status, it probably will be his swan song.

 

I agree with that, his postseason reputation alone just might get him by, as it did last year after an average year by his standards.

 

Of course, this is all based on the fact that he actually does make it back.

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Given his past performances' date=' his experience, and the size of his balls in a money situation on the mound, I'd spend the better part of the year trying to get him ready for September/October. Given his age and physical status, it probably will be his swan song.[/quote']

 

Nothing is more motivating than one more shot at glory. Schilling in September with something to prove could be very useful to the sox.

 

See: Roger Clemens. Of course, that never really panned out, too busy cheating and all

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It not about Clay Buchholz, it's about Curt Schilling. The whole deal this season is about rehabbing him to make quality starts down the stretch and in the playoffs. It is mutually exclusive of any other pitcher's inning limits or situation. Curt Schiiling at 75% in the playoffs can still be a bigger menace to the opposition than most pitchers can be at 100%.

 

Given his past performances, his experience, and the size of his balls in a money situation on the mound, I'd spend the better part of the year trying to get him ready for September/October. Given his age and physical status, it probably will be his swan song.

 

I think you missed my point, although I could have made it hard to get. Some where questioning if he should get a spot in the rotation or not. I'm saying that with the young pitchers in the Sox rotation, there will be plenty of oppurtunity for Schilling to pitch if healthy. Come September, theres no gurantee how strong Buchholz and Lester will be. Both if healthy will presumably pass there highest IP totals, they could hit the perverbiel wall, (which most young pitchers do), someone will need to step in, and Schilling will be there right in time if all goes well.

 

Come Playoff time, the more options the better in my book.

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I think you missed my point, although I could have made it hard to get. Some where questioning if he should get a spot in the rotation or not. I'm saying that with the young pitchers in the Sox rotation, there will be plenty of oppurtunity for Schilling to pitch if healthy. Come September, theres no gurantee how strong Buchholz and Lester will be. Both if healthy will presumably pass there highest IP totals, they could hit the perverbiel wall, (which most young pitchers do), someone will need to step in, and Schilling will be there right in time if all goes well.

 

Come Playoff time, the more options the better in my book.

 

No, I got your point, what you wrote seemed accurate and valid regarding the others. I just think the single factor that determines when/if Schilling pitches is Schilling and Schilling only.

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No' date=' I got your point, what you wrote seemed accurate and valid regarding the others. I just think the single factor that determines when/if Schilling pitches is Schilling and Schilling only.[/quote']

 

OK got ya:D

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Nothing is more motivating than one more shot at glory. Schilling in September with something to prove could be very useful to the sox.

 

That, and should we make it to October, and Schilling is as healthy as his last year form, he's gonna f***ing win.

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Just found this and it made me smile. He said that the thought of coming back had a "Little Christmasy feel to it."

 

f*** me if I don't want a determined pitcher who loves the game out there come playoff time.

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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080506&content_id=2650241&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

 

 

DETROIT -- In his first action this season, Curt Schilling felt good after his throwing session on Tuesday afternoon before the Red Sox played the Tigers at Comerica Park, but not good enough for the injured starter to begin a throwing program.

Schilling, on the 60-day disabled list with a right shoulder/biceps injury, made 25 throws from 60 feet to pitching coach John Farrell, with assistant trainer Mike Reinold looking on.

 

The 6-foot-4 right-hander did not make himself available for comment on Tuesday afternoon, leaving the clubhouse well before reporters were permitted. Red Sox manager Terry Francona said Schilling, and consequently the team, was excited about the positive first step in his return to the rotation.

 

"It's a small step in the grand progression," Francona said, "but it's still a good step that he's throwing. It will help rejuvenate the things he has to do."

 

Though Schilling's session was considered a success, it didn't prove to Reinold that Schilling is ready to begin a throwing program, consisting of more side-throwing sessions and bullpen work. He will perform another 25 throws from 60 feet on Thursday.

 

"He'll throw 60 feet until Mike says we can put him on a throwing program," Francona said. "It just depends on how he does."

 

There is no timetable set for Schilling's return, but Schilling has said he plans on returning to Boston's rotation sometime this season.

 

 

After being shut down in January due to pain in the shoulder, Schilling has been undergoing a strength and conditioning program with Reinold since receiving a cortisone shot in February.

 

Schilling said last Friday he hoped to start throwing in the next 10 days, but he has shown the team training staff enough progress to begin earlier.

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