Rate Your Top 10 Sox Prospects

[Zenny]

Mine:

 

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Brandon Moss

3. Jon Papelbon

4. Abe Alvarez

5. Kelly Shoppach

6. Dustin Pedroia

7. Manny Delcarmen

8. Jon Lester

9. Juan Cedeno

10. Jeremy West

[CrespoBlows]

Mine

 

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Brandon Moss

3. Abe Alvarez

4. Kelly Shoppach

5. Jon Papelpon

6. Dustin Pedreria

7. Jeremy West

8. Anibel Sanchez

9. Jon Lester

10. Manny Declarman

[yeszir]

I dont think I know enough about the system, so I'll avoid embarassing myself and trying to rank them thank you very much.

[YanksHater213]

Mine are...

 

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Brandon Moss

3. Jon Papelbon

4. Abe Alvarez

5. Kelly Shoppach

6. Dustin Pedroia

7. Manny Delcarmen

8. Jon Lester

9. Juan Cedeno

10. Jeremy West

 

thanks Zenny

[schillingouttheks]

lol, i agree with yeszir and yankshater on this one...

[empirestrikesback26]

I guess the jeremy west sucks.

[Zenny]

Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Sep 11 2004, 03:15 PM

I guess the jeremy west sucks.

What makes you say that? By the way, he's better than both Navarro and Cano.

 

Crespo, I was thinking of putting Sanchez on there, but I want to see more consistent off-speed from him. 90% of what he threw was his mid-90's heat. Granted, he has a fantastic fastball with outstanding control, but that's really all it takes to be good in the low minors. He's going to need more, but I'm confident he can get there.

[CrespoBlows]

What do you think about Hottvoy? He seems to be a good young lefty, who throws a pretty good curveball.

[Zenny]

Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Sep 11 2004, 03:26 PM

What do you think about Hottvoy? He seems to be a good young lefty, who throws a pretty good curveball.

See Alvarez, Abe. They are damn near identical pitchers, but Hottovy has less mileage on his arm, being that he was a reliever at Witchita State. Although, the current Sox ownership does an oustanding job at keeping their pitcher healthy (much of Manny D.'s arm issues come from prior ownership and high school, same deal with Lester), so Abe's arm should never become a problem.

[empirestrikesback26]

Originally posted by Zenny+Sep 11 2004, 03:19 PM-->

QUOTE (Zenny @ Sep 11 2004, 03:19 PM)

[CrespoBlows]

R.Cano .259 .403 61 216 22 56 87 9 2 6 30 18 27 0 1 4

[Zenny]

Every player listed is ahead of Cano and far ahead of Navarro.

[CrespoBlows]

Boston had 7 players on All minor league teams!

 

1. Shoppach

2. Hyzdu

3. Snyder

4. Papelbon

5. West

6. Moss

7. Sanchez

[Zenny]

Snyder and Hyzdu are no longer prospects (and have a good chance at not being in the organization next season), but the rest are very good prospects.

 

In addition to that, Moss was the SAL MVP and hit well over .400 in his time in the FSL.

 

Papelbon was also the FSL's best pitcher and was #1 or #2 in every statistical pitching category except for IP and that is an organziational influence to keep him healthy.

 

Shoppach was the IL's best catcher and was one of the top 10 or so power hitters as well.

 

Sanchez lead the NY/Penn League in ERA, WHIP and K's.

 

West showed good power, but was streaky and left something to be desired in the OBP and defense.

[CrespoBlows]

The Yankees had 2 :thumbsup:

[empirestrikesback26]

The yankees don't need prospects. Cano is all they need.

[CrespoBlows]

And he'll be a great 2nd baseman! <_>

[empirestrikesback26]

I hope you aren't being sarcastic because I think he will be, just not for the yanks probably.

[Zenny]

Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Sep 13 2004, 04:10 PM

I hope you aren't being sarcastic because I think he will be, just not for the yanks probably.

Umm... what exactly does he do? He doesn't hit for power, he doesn't hit for average, he doesn't walk, he doesn't run and he's worse than Alfonso Soriano on defense. Please explain to me where his magical abilities are going to come from.

[empirestrikesback26]

slap hitter, extrmely fast, great defense. ***ichiro***

[CrespoBlows]

He doesn't hit, and he isn't fast. He and Navaro are considered psuedo-prospects meaning their not that good, just overrated.

[empirestrikesback26]

He is fast. Ive seen him play. Faster than kaz matsui.

[CrespoBlows]

Ok he's fast. Wait so is Randy Moss, does that make him a good baseball player? NO! Cano can't do anything good.

[empirestrikesback26]

hey if randy wanted to, he probably colud. Primetime is example. Anyway he's a good slap hitter. No power though. He made the world team for crying out loud!

[Zenny]

Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Sep 13 2004, 07:39 PM

hey if randy wanted to, he probably colud. Primetime is example. Anyway he's a good slap hitter. No power though. He made the world team for crying out loud!

Juan Perez made it too and he sucks. I have a lot of issues with a lot of the guys on the World and US teams. Those games are always just a lot of hype with a little substance. Hell, Baseball America picks the teams and they can be a very sketchy hype-machine in their own right.

[empirestrikesback26]

how many playa in the sox farms got picked?

[Zenny]

Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Sep 13 2004, 08:02 PM

how many playa in the sox farms got picked?

Only Perez, because the Sox system gets no credit. I swear, the Futures Game is all hype. Kelly Shoppach should have been there over Koyie Hill, Hanley over Andres Blanco and Juan Cedeno over Perez, the other Sox choice. They are all much better prospects than the others listed.

[empirestrikesback26]

Originally posted by Zenny+Sep 13 2004, 08:13 PM-->

QUOTE (Zenny @ Sep 13 2004, 08:13 PM)

[CrespoBlows]

What excatly does Navarro do? He can't play defense, and can't hit. The Yankee farm system has nothing in it. They have no pitching at all.

[Zenny]

Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Sep 13 2004, 08:24 PM

Please, spare me. Sox get no credit? Navarro should have been there too.

You honestly do have no idea what you are talking about, do you?