Who must we re-sign

[YanksHater213]

yea, same here, project will take me all night, ill try to post as often as i can tonight but i dont know how much. but that lineup looked pretty good to me. id love to see it in action for us

[softball]

I don't really like Lowe anyway. Wasn't he already re-signed? *forgot*

 

Pedro is improtant, but ya gotta have tek

[Pedro]

They've all been extremely dissapointing IMO...

 

Pedro at 3.74 in July? That is far from the 2.22 ERA pitcher he was last year that should've won 18+ games if there was any justice in the world.

 

Derek Lowe just sucks.

 

Nomar is another decliner and his attitude is unbelievably s*****.

 

Varitek, as much as I love him, just can't stop getting blown away by fastballs that don't even reach 90 mph. I understand he has an obligation to worry about working with his pitchers, but he's been as bad as anybody and doesn't receive nearly the amount of s*** because he is a class act and very well liked. That doesn't change the fact is BA will be dipping into the .260's soon. However, he's also the only one of the four that hasn't bitched about his contract this year.

 

Pedro wanted a deal by Opening Day?

 

Lowe wants 10 million?

 

Nomar turned down 60 for 4 years?

 

They all look really stupid right now.

[YanksHater213]

Originally posted by Pedro@Jul 3 2004, 05:39 PM

Derek Lowe just sucks.

 

amen, although he has pitching well lately, he just sucks

[softball]

Originally posted by YanksHater213+Jul 4 2004, 12:10 PM-->

QUOTE (YanksHater213 @ Jul 4 2004, 12:10 PM)

[trot4mvp]

Pedro, without a doubt, is the most important player the Sox must re-sign this winter. The thought of him in pinstripes, which is where he'd end up, makes me shudder. Let's look at what the other 3 are looking for (not EXACT figures):

 

Nomar: $15m/year

Varitek: $7m/year

Lowe: $10m/year

 

Nomar's value has obviously come down, so we'll say the lowest he signs at is $12m/year. That means for 3 players we'd save $29m/year. Give Carlos Beltran his +/-$16m/year in the winter and go after a #3 or #4 starter in the $5m-$8m range.

 

Then, move Pokey to short, Bellhorn to 2nd, Shoppach to C, Damon to RF, Ortiz to 1B (not like our defense is getting any better), and Trot to LF to share time with Manny. Rotation: Pedro, Schill, Wake, (winter signee), Arroyo. The only one we'd really miss would be Varitek, but I say let the Kelly Shoppach era begin!

 

Did I mention that I love speculating on this team's future?

[gosox613]

i think tek is definetly the most important simply for his leadership skills. most people consider him to be the unofficial team captain and if he were to leave that would hurt the team significantly. it would also greatly affect the pitching staff, they would have to adjust to a new catcher and that would not be good

[trot4mvp]

Its not like Tek's departure would leave the clubhouse without any leaders, though. Ortiz, Trot, etc. would be willing to step in...sure they'd be disappointed, but I'm pretty sure they're all aware that baseball is in fact a business.

 

I wouldn't worry about any drop-off in the production of our pitcher's either. Spring training gives the guys a chance to get used to their new battery mate. Besides Zito, who has been steadily declining since his 2002 AL Cy Young, Oakland's pitchers have adjusted well to Damian Miller this season. The Marlins, too, are doing just fine without I-Rod...My point is that the loss of Tek wouldn't "greatly affect" our pitching staff, IMO.

[Zenny]

You are 100% correct.

[gosox613]

who is 100% correct?

[Zenny]

Originally posted by gosox613@Jul 8 2004, 08:44 PM

who is 100% correct?

trot4mvp is 100% correct.

[Sizzlin22]

I see Pedro and Tek signing, Lowe is as good as gone and Nomar not an option because he is not even finising the year with the Sox.

[schillingouttheks]

or were not going to sign 3 people, only 1, because pedro requires a lot of money, and tek has been good but kelly shoppach will come up next year and we will see what he has to offer.