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Marrero is not a contact hitting and Vazquez doesn't run well so it was a highly questionable decision. I think playing Marrero at third is also a questionable decision given that he seems helpless at the plate. Time for either Lin or Devers to step in.
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I did not advocate for a big bat and a big fairly long term contract. We are hobbled with too many of those now. Moreland has been a reasonable signing both for his field play and his bat. I had hoped we might sign Turner, but realistically we weren't going to sign him. That leaves us either signing Moustakis (sp) or using our own Minor league system. I am for trying the latter this year and bringing Devers up to go with Travis. Like it or not, we have to use Hanley this year and he might just produce. I wonder if his knee will swell on him and keep him out of the lineup for a day or two. One other thing I noticed in the game today is that Pedey's range didn't allow him to get to aany of the three balls off to his side. He made an effort and dove, but his range seems less than just a couple of years ago. Nothing can be done about that, but just something I noticed.
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To me, Betts tends to hit a lot of ball to center where his general power doesn't allow him to hit many out. I expect he will heat up and in particular if he goes to other fields.
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I agree, a key hit from the third baseman once in the game might have altered the outcome. Marrero is not producing offensively so why not go with Lin or perhaps bring up Devers. What can we lose?
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I agree. The offense stops when we get to Marrero. We have Lin who was batting 305 in the minors. We have devers in the minors. the time has come to move forward on a different path. I'd like to see us take our best chance of winning and Marrero certaining isn't helping at all on offense.
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Speaking of which, we still have Castillo and Craig. Realistically, Hanley is still our hope for a power hitter at this time and yes he remains in a slump, but we need to hope that he can come out of it and provide some much needed power for the club. Lets not go completely negative on the guy as we have a much more serious problem at 3rd base. We are not going to take Hanley out of the lineup this year other than for a rest at times. Still Devers sits in AA while we bring Lin up instead.
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Where would we be without Kimbrell?
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I was unaware that Rutledge was put on the DL with concussion symptoms and that we brought up Tzu-Wei Lin, another small guy as a fill-in infielder. He has been in the minors for a few years and had a 302 average in Portland. Must be a decent fielder but Devers is sitting there while this happens.
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That was a good point but last night I don't think Kimbrel fully warmed up. He lobbed a couple and then sat back down. Good win last night by the way.
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Lay off the Tacos, refried beans and conronas. Remeber all that weight you have lost.
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We can't be literally throwing away winnable games. In late September we may need a game here or there to qualify. Our staff tends to nibble at the corners too often and rack up a lot of pitches. Last night wasn't an example of that but instead outright willdness and it cost us a game. Anyone can have an off day. Lets hope it was only that and we can return to the solid relief we had been getting.
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Sending Pablo down and along with an extra pitcher while bringing up Travers and Marrero was a good move and one that might have been done even earlier. We know Marrero is not a major league hitter, but he has the good glove and is a temporary fill in, while Travis is a ML level hitter and can afford some rest to Moreland who is dealing with a broken big toe. We should have Pedey back soon, maybe tonight, so the club is getting better. Since Pablo is unlikely to be back until after the AS break, the question is how best to deal with 3rd base in the interim. To me, Devers appears to be ready and that move might also be the easiest for a lot of reasons. Age should not be the determining factor, although the Sox FO must have other input that makes them feel he is not ready. Of course our FO in the past has selected several busts in recent history so you have to wonder about their judgment.
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I doon't buy the too young argument. There may be other viable arguments that management knows, but age should not be one of them. Just for interest, I looked up the youngest players to hit both leagues for the last 10 years. Francis Martes (HOU) 21 2016 (NL AL) Julio Urias (LAD) 19 Raul Mondesi (KCR) 20 2015 (NL AL) Miguel Castro (COL) 20 Roberto Osuna (TOR) 20 2014 (NL AL) Dilson Herrera (NYM) 20 Rougned Odor (TEX) 20 2013 (NL AL) Bryce Harper (WSN) 20 Jurickson Profar (TEX) 20 2012 (NL AL) Bryce Harper (WSN) 19 Jurickson Profar (TEX) 19 2011 (NL AL) Julio Teheran (ATL) 20 Mike Trout (LAA) 19 2010 (NL AL) Starlin Castro (CHC) 20 Chris Sale (CHW) 21 2009 (NL AL) Madison Bumgarner (SFG) 19 Rick Porcello (DET) 20 2008 (NL AL) Clayton Kershaw (LAD) 20 Travis Snider (TOR) 20 A lot of these kids have turned out to be extremely valuable. Talent, not age should be the determining factor.
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It certainly looks like he is gone until the all star break. After that, a reevaluation has to take place. In the mean time, Rutledge is our utility infielder so the question becomes do we trade for a 3rd baseman or make the jump with Devers. Nothing new in those thoughts and that Marrero will be probably be sent down again. I would bring Devers up soon, keep Travis and Rutledge up and send Marrero back down. Assuming Devers can show plate discipline, hit with a little power and field his position enough so he is better than anyone we currently have, he would have a nice start to a ML career. What a nice lineup that could be: Pedey/Rutledge Bennintendi/Young Bogaerts Betts Moreland/Travis Rameriz/Young/Moreland JBJ Devers/Rutledge Leon/Vazquez I am hoping Handley gets hot. Watching his at bats shows me he has good plate discipline but is just missing the pitches (lot of fouls), so may not be seeing it well. That or possibly the shoulder is more of a problem than we know. It is worth waiting as he is a 235 pound vedry strong player and capable of much more.
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Other new information to me is that Moreland has a broken toe and Travis was brought up to give him a rest. With Travis up and Pablo down for who knows how long (10 days minimum) and Farrell talking about him needing a rehab assignment, Its likely to be until after the all star break. By then, maybe Devers will be up and Marrero down. That might be our best chance at having a good hitting lineup all the way across the order and with even the subs. Of course Handley has to get over his long cold spell for that to happen. Hope the team comes through for Sale tonight as he deserves support.
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I don't pretend to know the situation and the coaches and managers do, but the question remains, Would he be an improvement on Pablo?
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Did he actually play there in the bottom of the 8th/
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That will be a blow to the Yankees as he would have been called up.
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Lets not get one of our key pitchers hurt on the base paths or hit with a pitched ball. Last night according to the box score, Vazquez was the substitute at 3rd base. I didn't notice it at the time so am not sure. The hitting was good last night, with loud outs when we couldn't get the key hits we needed. Clearly, an extra quality bat with power at the disposal of JF would make him a better manager.
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The report on Pedroia sounds like he will be out of two or three games with the contusion on his ribs. That will mean that Rutledge will play second and Panda third but that leaves no one to substitute in the infield should a player get injured or ejected. I haven't heard of any temporaty call up. Has anyone got further information?
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Agreed. Houston was the test that I had been waiting to see. Beating them on the road was a big step, even though their pitching has been weakened due to injury, they still feature a strong hitting game and our pitching and defense was just good enough. But we shouldn't stand on our laurels. We should make an effort to cure our main problems ASAP.
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Agreed. This team needs players who can fill in when guys get tired or slightly injured. Right now, we are okay in the outfield and catcher, so the infield where we need help. Rutledge is doing a decent job as a fill in player. Hanley seems to be only a DH. That leaves us with Pablo who can only fill in at 3rd and not well then. The answer seems obvious except for the salary issue. Rutledge can fill in at 2nd, short or 3rd. So we need a fill in player who can play first or 3rd. We have them in the minors. The time to act seems to have come and only the Sox front office hasn't got the message.
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With a great night from Bogaerts, who had been taking the collar for several days, and a timely hit from Bradley, we got it done. The pitching was not great, but good enough. Clearly, another good bat would help. Moreland needs a rest at times and Hanley doesn't want to or cant play 1st other than an emergency. The choices we have in the minors are Travis and Devers. Take your pick and bring one up. Send Sandoval packing.
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Sometimes just a change in personnel or the way things are being done can restore confidence and get things going. We can't make wholesale changes, but we all know that Pablo isn't contributing and Hanley appears to be injured, so put him on the DL and bring up someone who wants to and can play.
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We have not been facing dominant pitching of late based on their eras's but they sure dominate us. That is a bad sign, since we will soon run into top pitching and then what. Something is going on with the team where they just don't seem to have an approach that leads to hits and runs. I agree that there is talent, mainly with 6 players. Somebody has to try something new and shake them out of this malaise that they are in. It wouldn't hurt to bring in or up a couple more hitters. If Hanley is hurt, put him on the 10 day DL. The exeriment with Pablo also looks like a bust. C'mon front office and make a move or two.