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I hear you, and I do like the idea of comparing like positioned or skilled player to each other, but eventually I can't help but take the next step- comparing the very best from each category to the others to give my opinion on the GOAT. To me, it's about who dominated his era, his position (maybe even revolutionized the position in some cases) and was the most essential player on his team when winning championships. It's not all about championships, that's why I have Wilt #1. Russell's stats back up his #2 slot as much as the rings.
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Basketball rings can be won with just one superstar- Football, not so much. Compare Russells 11 rings in 13 years plus two NCAA championships to Brady's 6 in 20 seasons- nothing to sneeze at but football takes a team of 40+ players, a coach and a few stars. Just my take.
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Bill Russell was beating Wilt Chamberlain many of those ring years, and Wilt had some great supporting casts many of those years. Paul Arizan, Al Attles, Guy Rodgers & Tom Gola Nate Thurmond & Wayne Hightower Hal Greer, Cher Walker, Billy Cunningham & Wali Jones (Luke Jackson/Larry Costello)Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Happy Hairiston & Dick Garrett The St. Louis Hawks had Bob Petite, Cliff Hagan (20+ pts/10+ Reb), Clyde Lovellette (20+/10+) & Lenny Wilkens The earlier Laker teams also had Dick Barnett and more.
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To me, Wilt and Russell dominated their era more than Jordan, and they did it for longer. To me, it's not about how good Wilt or Russell would be in Jordan's era. We'll never know. I go by the numbers as compared to other players in their era and ring totals where the player was an essential piece to winning all the rings. Yes, the Celts had some great teams, but Russell was essential. How many do they win without him? Maybe as much as the Bulls without Jordan: zero. (Maybe not) How would Jordan have done in the 60's? Maybe he'd beat the Celtics single-handedly, but we'll never know. While the league was smaller back in the 60's, it may not have been so watered down.
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Simple: 1. Jim Brown 2. Lawrence 3. Tom
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I never said it was easy or clear-cut, and I have no problem saying this guy is the best big man, this guy is the best little guy and this guy is the best tweener, but eventually, it seems natural to give your opinion on who you think is the best of the best. To me, rebounds are under-rated. I get how the league was different then, and in some ways, Wilt and Russell were men among boys, but it's precisely that image that proves how much they dominated the competition of their time, and to me, that's what I go by. (Not saying anyone else's criteria is wrong.) 1. Wilt 2. Russell 3. Jordan 4. LeBron 5. The Big O
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Why? I realize there are vast differences in the skillsets of Wilt, Russell and Kareem as compared to Jordan & LeBron, and maybe Bird and the Big O deserve their own grouping, too, but the GOAT should include everybody. It's harder to distinguish the best pitcher from the best everyday player than this.
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He's gotta be top 5, and I'm a Celtics- hater. 2 NCAA Championships in his last 2 years Olympic Gold (1956) 11 out of 13 championships in the NBA That's 14 championships or gold medals in 15 years playing against the highest competition in the world. His playoff numbers were better than his regular season numbers, too. The guy was a winner. I would not argue with anyone saying he was the very best. Wilt, Jordan, LeBron and Russell, to me, are indisputable top 5 ever. The fifth guy is harder to name: Kareem? Magic? Oscar Robertson? Bird? (I disagree on Kobe.)
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HOF Coach Dead at Age 90 My condolences go his family and friends.
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Good news. The trade sure looks great, now.
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I used to shoot pool in a place that had a juke box with whole albums. I used to pick Mountain Jam, so my money would go farther. LOL
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Another Yankee exposed as a creep... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mickey-mantle-greeting-card-diane-shah_n_5ea1ae3dc5b6c12e6a5e9cdc
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Good read... http://news.soxprospects.com/2020/04/cup-of-coffee-retrospective-of-eduardo.html?fbclid=IwAR1qIBG-fq12_zN87O7VAP1Ge_ieAPb970T2qllZqsKlp7_OHFrT52N7Q8k
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Well said.
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It's hard to know what will happen to player salaries after this.
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Depends. We lose some salary.
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Good read... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/mookie-betts-trade-season-canceled-dodgers-red-sox.html
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Winner ^ Not mentioned: Jack Kemp
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life into the board... friendly poll
moonslav59 replied to Noles_1335's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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My prayers go out to your family.
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R.I.P Jimmy.
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All is good. I’m on my phone. My wife is having oral surgery as we speak.
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Yes! This could be a major blow to our rebuilding plan. Let’s hope any penalties do not involve draft or bonus pool penalties.
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ERod could keep getting better. We basically had no Sale last year and still finished over .500. No Porcello & Price may hurt, but it’s not like we won a lot when they pitched last year. I’m expecting close to .500, but with a short season, anything can happen. There is a reason baseball plays 162 not 82, and we may see why this year.
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I doubt a new stadium helps much. They should move to Sacremento.
