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Lorenzen no hits Nats. Too bad we can't get guys like him at the deadline.

The team OPS leader race has tightened. Who will be the top dog at the end of the season? .848 Duran (less PAs, so easier to jump with one big game) .846 Devers .839 Yoshida .836 Casas .826 Turner .816 Duvall (less PAs than others) .780 Reyes (less PAs) .778 Dugo

They should pay you.

Were you happy with the mess he was handed? Massive budget slash directive Declining vet production, even those in their primes Pretty much no farm help, except Houck from Devers (summer of '17 to spring of '23) to Bello, Casas, Duran & Co. We all seem to be unhappy about the MLB results, but some chose to blame, some seek to explain while some look for silver linings. If the players showed the fight some fans have, maybe the results would be better.

He's kept the fans highly competitive, in terms of at each other's' throats.

Team Catcher OPS is pretty close to the past ones... 2023: .672 2022: .694 2021: .684

Well said. Pay Pal with Wink is fine.

Building up his trade stock value.

Our catching tandem has been pretty impressive, this year. Certainly one bright spot among the swirling doom and gloom.

Wong who? LOL

Are these 9 better than the 8 we added or kept? Murphy Bernardino Barraclough Walter Robertson Garza Jacques Llovera

Lamet was the 30th Sox pitcher used, this year, not counting Reyes. It's been a revolving door, for sure, and these are the nine pitchers who are on the outside, now... IP in 2023 31 Bleier 23 Ort 21 Brasier 6.2 Sherriff 4.0 Dermody 3.2 Scott 3.0 Littell 2.0 Faria 2.0 Lamet

Good thing putting teams together for specific 2 calendar week stretches is not a GM's job description.

Are you saying we had more min wage rookies playing during that period? BTW, I agree on your opinion on the Sale deal. He deserved it and easily could have made that deal look like a great one for the team.

Next, you'll say Duran has always been your favorite player.

Maybe some better pen depth guys would have done better than this parade of clowns had they not gotten hurt, either. Not that all these guys were locks to do better, but some had promise: Joely: while a 4.28 ERA and 1.39 WHIP from '20-'22 is not good, it's better than the ones we used. Kelly was ranked 27t on SPs in DEC '22. Mills might not have done better, but its hard to imagine worse. Mata was widely viewed as our best ML ready prospects before he got hurt. His ranking of 6th on SP's in DEC was the highest ranked pitcher on the Sox farm. We ended reaching down to Murphy and Walter, among other prospects, too The other thing is just how many SP'ers and RP/SP types have gone down with injuries. Having to move so many RP's to the rotation or to pitch pen games killed us. It's hard to name who our true starting 5 would have been had they all been healthy, but pick any 5 and look at how much the others could have helped the pen, had they not been needed to start. (Pivetta is unique, as he was demoted, did well in the pen, then went back to the rotation.) Pick 5 and imagine the rest as deep pen help: Sale Paxton Whitlock Bello Kluber Paxton Houck Crawford (Winckowski has not been used as a SP.)

It might be getting close to the time to start the 2024 thread.

You are not a pretender. No issues, here.

I still watched and cheered for every game, and I admitted I bailed. Was saying Casas was "My boy," pretending or just sarcasm?

Telling truths is not throwing stones. At least I admit my mistakes and apologize. I've confronted you with your actual quotes, and you have never once admitted you even made a typo mistake. Okay, I admit I throw stones at pretender fans, but I'm not sorry. I mispoke when I said I do not thow stones. I was wrong. There. See how easy it is to admit a mistake?

Talk about total BS. I can't even begin to address all the lies and misinformation. It's obvious to all you don't hate Cora, or Bloom, or JH, or... lmao.

Sure seems like one is happy to be right about them "sucking," although being over .500 is hardly that. When someone complains about about everyone in management and more than half the players, why cheer for the team? I get no sense of hope we do better. It's all, "see I told you, we'd suck, and Bloom is to blame." They disappeared when the team was doing well. Okay, maybe they don't actually want us to suck, but the actions (or "eye test) tell me otherwise. Just my opinion.

I don't see a contradiction on this. I get how people express their disappointments in differing ways, especially on the game threads. Everyone has the right to express their opinions, even if way out there or is in a way that make me wonder about what being a fan means to them. It does not surprise me that those who have been critical of the team management for years all but disappeared when the team was doing well, then come running from far and wide the minute we start struggling to puff out their chests and say "I told you so," without actually saying those words. To me, it seems like at least one poster is celebrating being right about this team sucking, when we still have a winning record due to the more times we played pretty well. We are not this bad. We are not as good as it looked like we were back a couple weeks ago, either. We are somewhere in between. It looks like we may end up with 80-84 wins. That's better than the naysayers projected, but no way can they take any enjoyment from that, of the fact that our future looks way brighter than it did before and after 2020. It's gotta be win now or nothing. I guess 29 teams have s***** GMs, every year, because now is all that matters. Look, I get it. I've lived in this instant gratification society for over 60 years, and if I don't get what I want, it's gotta be someone else's fault. Throwing blame is the nation's new great pastime. Then, to top it, off they gloat that they are boast about being in the majority- like that makes them right and the minority wrong. I'm really not trying to throw stones, although it certainly sounds like it, especially towards one poster. I'm not trying to say my way is better, or that I am above the disappointment and anger, either. I do feel differently about what being a good fan means, and say it when I feel it. I know I am in a tiny minority in trying to see the good in each season and being somewhat content on feeling our future is looking brighter, so the here and now can be stomached more easily. It's just the gloating that makes me question why some even bother being a fan. I don't see what they get out of it. This team I follow had a real tough situation 5 years ago. For many reasons, the walls came crumbling down. It's the basis for the blame game running amok. Some seem to enjoy wallowing in it. I guess I could say, good for them, but I don't really wish them good tiding on that twisted journey.

How about 8-14 before the deadline, the last 2 years combined in the 11 games before it? They were also 1-8 in the 3 games before the deadline over the last 3 years.

What's your read on Romero?