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  1. I get all this, but some pitchers are way better in the pen. I’d pick Pivetta over Houck or Crawford, and Houck over Crawford, but that choice is close. If we add 2, which is way more realistic than 3, we’d have 3 with Bello. If Sale is healthy, and Pivetta starts, we can have Crawford, Houck and Whitlock in the pen.
  2. There was talk of Uriah being non tendered, but yes, he’s better than those on the list, but also much more costly. I don’t think everyone on my list is at DFA level, especially Murphy, Ref and maybe Mata/DHam/Walter.
  3. I would, too, and cross my fingers. ExtendingCease would make it even better.
  4. We have more fringe players than the 4 you listed. We just traded one to SEA, a team not looking for more fringe. I’m thinking more like Murphy/Walter/Mata or Refsnyder, McGuire, Robertson DHam or Kelly. I think some GM might like 2-3 of these players listed, and I’m not suggesting we trade 3 for a solid player: just 2-3 for 1 that is better.
  5. I meant to say Pivetta not Paxton in my opening sentence. I can’t edit from my phone.
  6. Yes. He has been much better as a RP than SP. Just because he might have been the closest to being a consistent “jack”as a SP’er does not mean he projects to be better than Bello, Paxton and others, next year. Remember, I’m for adding 3SPers to Bello and Pivetta/Sale, so I think the same way about Houck, Whitlock and Crawford. Adding 3 plus a healthy Sale would even move Pivetta, our most consistent SPer over the last 3 years, to the pen. (Note: Pivetta is the only SPer we’ve had every season of the last 3 (10+ GS.)
  7. This makes sense, but trying to slightly improve on your #4 with a better#4 means you are not getting a very good pitcher. Just replacing your 3rd best pitcher knocks your 3 to 4 and your 4 to 5. In theory, adding any pitcher better than your 5th best starter is basically replacing the 5. Id prefer replacing the 5 with a 2 or 3 than a 4, but money and circumstances often keeps that from happening. Also, when you get to 4’s or 5’s, many are stabs in the dark and almost all of them are hard to predict what they will give the team the following year. In recent years, we added Kluber, Paxton, Wacha, Hill, Richards, Perez (twice) and Pivetta. To me, it’s not a successful strategy unless it is coupled with adding a 1 or 2.
  8. Just read the Mets only have 28 players on their 40, while ATL and SDP have just 31. Lots of slots to be filled around MLB, right now. I’d like to see us move from quantity of mediocre talent to a more quality based roster of better than mediocre players. Maybe we can find a 2 or 3 for one trade partner, who likes multiple fringe players on our roster.
  9. True. Sale, Paxton, Bello and even Crawford & Pivetta were near Kings for about a half season, but none were even Jacks for most of the season. Crawford probably came closest.
  10. I think it’s a way to place pitchers in value tiers, but with so much difference in opinion on what a 1, 2, or 3 means, it does make it near meaningless. To simplify things, it looks like Snell, Monty and Gray are somewhere between the rankings of 5-25 from 2021 to 2023 or2023 by itself. We all have our preferences and stat priorities, but I’d say all 3 are between the 10th and 15th best starters over the past 3 years. Some younger starters with1-2 years in MLB may be better going forward but I don’t think it’s all that far off to say… These 3 pitchers are as good or better than half the MLB teams’ best SPer.
  11. FWAR 2023 5.3 Gray 4.3 Monty 4.1 Snell 3.9 Nola signed w PHI (Cease 3.7, Burnes 3.4, Glasgow 3.1) 3.0 ERod (Garrett 3.0) 2.8 Lugo 2.6 Wacha, Stroman, Gibson 2.2 Clevinger
  12. Yes, and what matters most during the season is that your SPer is better than your opps more often than not. Of course, other parts of your team matters on winning vs losing but improving your odds with a better rotation seems to be the best area to focus on, and when the team was as bad as we were last year, in this area, we need some highly ranked SPers.
  13. It does matter more, especially when you can get 3 starts from your game one starter. Otherwise, your top 3 SPers matter way more than you 4/5’s.
  14. As much Bloom’s fault. Paxton and Bello were on the IL, too.
  15. Maybe, but also it might depend on how many number 2’s and 3’s there are in MLB. If you think it’s about 30 #2’s, then I would think there is a big gap between a top #2 and a top #3, but maybe they aren’t that far apart.
  16. Gray would not be for7 years, but he would cost a pick. I agree with you: after Yano, Monty and Gray might be the best left.
  17. It’s a convenient way to group starters, or so I thought, but there are so many differing views on what a 1, 2 and 3 SPer is, I am agreeing, too. I’d be happy to see us sign Monty, but I still hope we find a way to make him the second best pitcher we add. Yes, it’s a dream.
  18. I thought he said back end 2 to Frint end 3.
  19. A pitcher can pitch great, his team wins and he gets a no decision. A pitcher can pitch like crap and get the win. I don’t think GMs are happy with their starter, if he lets up7 runs, but the he gets the win. I think a GM is happy with SPers who keep them in as many games as possible by allowing fewer runs than the norm- win or lose. Sure, he wants his team to win, but I doubt he keeps a 7.00 ERA pitcher around because he goes 17-9 over a season.
  20. Yes, and the point is other stats show who are better pitchers than their record
  21. I’m in Disney World for 5 days. BD present for the wife and daughter. (Not used to so much walking!)
  22. I’m texting from my phone, today. I’m not used to it, and I can’t see what I type. I think my spell check is set on British not American.
  23. And it’s still as messed up as ever. Both the wins and saves rules are so messed up, and with pitchers not going as deep into games, these days, these middle RPers are getting more and more of the decisions based on when they came into the game and not how well they did.
  24. I’d like to bd fly on the wall listening in on Brez & Co.’s talks on who are their top priority targets. The players they are discussing might be way off from our discussions. Some may surprise us, greatly.
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