One more thing. I respect moonslav's opinion about Farrell and sometimes agree because, while I also defend JF, I have myself said maybe he needs to go. The difference is he focuses on specific things the manager and players do or fail to do, and I basically go by the won-lost record. Plus I honestly think managers have more expertise, stats, bench coach, pitching coach, etc with which to make decisions on pitchers. I assume every move has a good rationale regardless of the outcome.
Think about this. When was the last time anyone on talksox or in the media said, "you know, those guys won because the manager made some great moves." Never happen, GI. Managerial credit for winning only comes with a large sample size, normally no less than a season. Funny thing, but many fans were delighted when Francona's contract after 2011. What a bum. Now he is doing a great job in Cleveland.
Nevertheless I do enjoy all the comments and insights on this thread/board. Way, way better than that other one. Some great insights. And humor.