Lord Snow
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I don't know how Red Sox fans can, even for a second, question whether or not the Peavy acquisition is good for the team. Take a closer look at his season. 6 1/3 IP, 12, TWELVE, earned runs, and 15 hits in the two starts before hitting the DL with a fractured rib (nothing wrong with the shoulder that had been troubling him). I think it would be very fair to attribute those 2 bad starts to the rib injury. Prior to that he had logged 7 quality starts in 9 chances. If you take away those 2 bad starts, before hitting the DL, from Peavy what you get is a pitcher who has gone 73 2/3 innings this season, with a 3.17 ERA and 1.03 WHIP. And you aren't going to get that player for Jose Iglesias + a bunch of nobodies. GREAT trade by the Sox. We just got 2012 Jake Peavy who pitched to a 3.37 ERA over 219 innings!
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When he was with the Sox. He was a .266/.317/.442/.759 hitter in Seattle for 5 seasons and that was basically what he did each year for 5 years, it wasn't like he had a monster year here and there, and then a bad year that killed his 5 year average. Then he comes to Boston and becomes a .321/.365/.553/.919 guy. His AVG went up 50 points, his OBP 50 points, his SLG 100 points, and his OPS 160 points! All on a 1-year "audition" contract! I think thats why the Sox didn't keep him. Theo probably thought he was on something too.
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I think the one thing Jose Iglesias proved this year was that he is capable of being an everyday player. What he flashed was the potential to be a consistent hitter in the big leagues, which is an important test for any young player. Its the reason why people still have faith in Middlebrooks even though he's having a tough year. The Sox sold high but if next year Iggy goes .300/.350 and wins a gold glove for Detroit I won't be shocked.
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Could be the case. He does have a bit of an unorthodox delivery, maybe even slightly deceptive, and its giving hitters fits. Especially since there isn't really a major league scouting book on him yet because he only has a handful of innings under his belt. In short, his success could be short lived.
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There has been lots of talk about Workman being bullpen bound. Anybody else think it would be an okay experiment to send Dempster there? After all he was a closer at one point. And I'd kind of like to see how this Workman thing plays out. I'm very impressed for a guy with a mediocre scouting report.
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He's a guy I'm convinced is using something. He had an odd way of having monster seasons in contract years, then sucking. And Arlington Stadium has had a huge impact on his numbers.
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Haha. Last year's free agent class did kind of suck. I think Swisher will pan out, and I still like him more than Victorino since he has a recent track record of success. Even Hamilton completely s****** the bed has been a shocker. Although I'm starting to think guys inked by the Angels are cursed. That or the pressure caused by big money deals kills talent... It's another reason I love Pedroia's new deal!
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Yeah. You're right about that. I think there was a lot of backlash when the Sox missed out on Teixeira. Not only from the fans and the media, but also senior management. So I think the pressure was on Theo to make the Gonzalez trade. Which in hindsight really wasn't a bad one. He ended up being overpaid and never recovering from that shoulder, but he isn't a bad player to this day, we needed to dump him to jettison that Crawford contract.
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He isn't. The thing with Ortiz was that he [allegedly] used PEDs when he was fat and out of shape. But then he got pre-diabetes or whatever and got his a** in shape, and now he is crushing it. He kind of went in the reverse order of steroid era guys who roided as they got older, but were fit as kids.
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That was really the only time Theo pulled the trigger on a major deal involving top prospects. He consistently passed on blockbuster deals to hang onto prospects.
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Mostly wrong about everything? Care to elaborate? I was wrong about the Sox's ability to win. But I'm happy they've done so well this year. And I LOVE the Peavy acquisition. I don't think anybody knew or thought they were going to be THIS good. I expected a train wreck of a season and I wasn't alone. My opinions are still valid regarding Dempster and Victorino. Go look up what I said a few months ago. I'll give Cherington credit where it's due, and always do. I hate the 3-year Napoli contract, but loved it when they found that hip injury and reduced him to a 1-year deal. I still think it's great value. I also supported last year's blockbuster. I just thought Cherington pissed away the free agent money (which I still think he did).
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Theo was actually very stingy with the farm system too. I think that's where Cherington learned it from. There is a balance to be struck. But today's game (i.e. a game without PEDs) means teams have to be younger to compete since players really start to show their age around 33-35, except for Papi who is just a miracle and should be put forward for sainthood.
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I was critical of the Ryan Dempster signing, who sits at 6-8 with a 4.24 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, and .254 BAA. I'd be happy to let Peavy have his spot in the rotation. And also of the Shane Victorino signing who is at .281/.327/.400/.727 a .730 OPS isn't worth $13M/year. Sorry.
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So true. Iggy isn't trash. But I don't see him becoming more than a 7-9 hitter.
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It was just a smart move by Cherington. The Sox had the payroll to take on Peavy's contract. Even though there wasn't much talent available at the deadline this year the Sox waited it out and came in with the best low ball offer for Peavy at the last minute.
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Probably when Carl Crawford still wore a Sox uniform.
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Exactly. We made out far better than Texas with Garza, which I didn't expect for various reasons. Peavy being under control for more than 10 starts being one of them.
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Verdict: Excellent trade for the Sox. Iglesias and a bunch of nobodies for an aging but still effective Jake Peavy. I prefer Peavy to a king's Ransom for Cliff Lee. Lee is going to be 35 in less than a month. How many post-steroid era pitchers age well into their late-30s? Lee's next start could be his last as an ace. The same is true of Peavy due to his injury history, but we didn't pay much for Peavy.
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.Per @AlexSpeier a minor leaguer Red Sox giving up 19-year-old shortstop Cleuluis Rondon of Single-A Lowell
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Buchholz is out until late-August in a best case scenario. We have Brandon Workman in the rotation, and although he has been fantastic he only has 3 starts under his belt. Do you really trust him down the stretch? I wouldn't. Not when Peavy can be had for a bench player.
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All of the players in the deal haven't shaken out yet. They might get a top prospect from the Tigers, or a couple of promising B-level guys. The money on Peavy's contract isn't really enough for it to be considered a "salary dump" because he is more or less worth what he is paid.
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This isn't Jake Peavy of the San Diego Padres, but as long as he is healthy he can beat anyone and at least keep the team in the game, which is what you need in the playoffs. Is he an ace like Lee? No. But from the (early) sound of it we didn't pay ace price either!
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So far I LOVE what I've heard about this trade. Jose Iglesias still isn't much of a hitter, better than the past two years, but that isn't saying much. Jake Peavy for a year and half! On reasonable money too?! No brainer. Better than the Garza trade. The only thing that concerns me are the other minor league pieces included. Sometimes a trade like this sounds sweet up front and then you lose quality youngsters in A ball.
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I don't Ortiz is currently on something. He resurrected his career after he became a borderline diabetic and had to lose a ton of weight. He probably lost a good 50-60 lbs which got him in awesome physical shape which he has maintained. He also figured out that he doesn't need to try to pull everything lefties throw him, he takes balls the other way, and works with what he is offered and that is why his average has been VERY healthy over the last few seasons.
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I know this chat has been had before on here but what do you guys think? Normal players would be slowed by injury or age and Papi just keeps hitting. He had a lull 2008-2009 but was still reasonably productive during those seasons. Besides that he has been one of the best hitters in the American league since 2003. He has a larger than life personality, 2x WS Champ. Arguments against: a vague accusation of using PEDs, and being a full-time DH. If Ortiz finishes his career like he has been going I see him in Cooperstown. There are all kinds of arguments against DHs getting in, steroid era guys, etc, but I think if there is going to be a first, Papi is fine choice.