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I just think if we want to win another title, he is a vital piece to it. I don't think JBJ will be ready to put up similar numbers to Ells in the next year or two. Plus the luxury of having Victorino, Ells, and Bradley in the outfield, lot of speed and great defense in the outfield. You have to look at windows of players, and Ortiz has probably another season left at maximum. We have to go into 2014 ready to win another title or at least defend it respectively. Boras is looking at $20-25 million a year for Ells. If Ells wants to be here and a part of this special team, like I think he does, I would think he'd take a pay cut of $2-7 million a year roughly.

The excellence of Papi, bullpen, and players who were in slumps stepping up at the right time led us to a World Series. I'd keep a majority of the pitching staff -- Hanrahan, Dempster are gone. We're getting arms back and developing some in Triple-A this year, the pitching of this team just looks too strong for the next couple of seasons. Buchholz will enjoy the time off and come ready to go for Spring Training. Lester, Peavy, and Lackey are quality arms during the regular season and Doubront I'm expecting big things from next year. He was considered an ace at one time when everyone else was struggling. Fielders is where we're gonna do a majority of the offseason shopping. Ellsbury is too damn important to this team. He's a quality lead off hitter, stole 50+ bases, hit just under .300 and delivered crucial hits and walks throughout the post season. Solid fielder and he's a guy, even at 30, you want to keep. And hopefully with the World Series title he will take a little bit of a pay cut to win another title here. I'd give him a 5 year/$90 million contract. Are we really ready for Jackie Bradley Jr to put Ellsbury numbers or be a lead off guy? I don't think so. I say make him earn a spot in LF or RF (swapping with Victorino to save his legs due to the green monster in left). That outfield has a lot of speed, and if JBJ can get on base in the 9 hole, with Ells and Vic due up next, this team in 2014 will score runs. Stephen Drew is all done. Terrible World Series, he couldn't hit a beach ball. However, made huge plays in the field. But, I think its time to let Middlebrooks and Bogaerts take over at 3B and SS, and man I can't wait. Jarrod Saltalamacchia had a great regular season. But he isn't a game manager we want behind the plate, and at 28 soon to be 29, serving behind Varitek when he first got here and still hasn't picked up how to call a game yet is troubling. We had to bring in David Ross who really contributed when we needed it most. Salty made some costly mistakes in the post season as well. We can platoon with Lavarnway, Butler and Ross for a majority of the season. We have some quality Catchers ready in another year or two, so no point in signing Salty to a long term deal. Christain Vasquez and Blake Swihart. Mike Napoli, due to the shortage of first base names in the market, needs to be re-signed. I'd give him 2 year/$26 million contract or, similar to his deal last December, 3 year/$39 million. He also wants to be here next year. I got Nick Punto returning to us because we will need an infielder who can play the middle infield positions and even at 3B. Also, he's a high character guy, Cherrington seems to love those type of players as do I.

Starting Pitchers 1. Clay Buchholz RH 2. Jon Lester LH 3. Jake Peavy RH 4. Felix Doubront LH 5. John Lackey RH Bullpen CL. Koji Uehara RH SU. Andrew Bailey RH SU. Andrew Miller LH MR. Junichi Tazawa RH MR. Craig Breslow LH LR. Franklin Morales LH LR. Brandon Workman RH Lineup CF. Jacoby Ellsbury L RF. Shane Victorino S 2B. Dustin Pedroia R DH. David "Mr. Cooperstown" Ortiz L 1B. Mike Napoli R SS. Xander Bogaerts R LF. Daniel Nava S C. Ryan Lavarnway R 3B. Will Middlebrooks R Bench C. David Ross R 1B. Mike Carp L IF. Nick Punto S OF. Jackie Bradley L OF. Jonny Gomes R

From what I've been hearing, Stanton doesn't want to be there, and there not going to agree on an extension. Marlins might be looking to off load him before he walks for nothing, and this might be the best time. There outfield is already loaded, adding Jackie Bradley Jr. to it would cost someone learning a new position. So a JBJ, Cecchini, Barnes and possibly 1-2 other top 11-50 prospects I think would get the deal done I believe. Maybe an Alex Hassan who can play first base possibly.

Jackie Bradley Jr., Garin Cecchini, and Matt Barnes for Giancarlo Stanton coming next. Jake Peavy for Jose Iglesias is brilliant, if thats all we gave up. Loved Iggy though. I just don't see Peavy as a big upgrade over something we already have like Doubront. But, this must tell you how Cherrington feels about Clay Buchholz. Which can't be a good sign. I'd call up Bogaerets in the coming days. Let Middlebrooks get his appearences in AAA, see if Bogaerets catches on quick. If not, it buys time for Middlebrooks to tend that sore wrist and get back in the swing of things and call him back up.

We would be stupid to deal prospects for Jake Peavy. Now, Cliff Lee, possibly but at what price? I'm not willing to give away top tier prospects. Xander Bogaerets, Will Middlebrooks, Jackie Bradley, Rubby De La Rosa, Allen Webster, Henry Owens, Anthony Ranaudo, Trey Ball, Brandon Workman and Blake Swihart are all untouchable to me. I think we need a bat more than we need pitching at this point. Since the all star break we've only give up 28 runs in 10 games and we've scored 33 runs. But we've been held under 2 runs in 6 games including 2 shutouts to division opponents. I'd call up Bogaerets and Middlebrooks. Though, Middlebrooks unlikely with Snyder's decency at the plate today, let him continue his excessive rehad stint in the minors. But call up Bogaerets! Let's see if the kid can catch on at the MLB level.

Too bad, Sox battled throughout. But, Nava was safe at the plate. Umpire had a terrible angle. But, still Farrell should of used Iglesias in that situation. But nothing you can do now. Let me just say, Pedroia is clearly struggling, as some said, he could possibly use a day off. I'd even give Napoli a day off as well, because the way he is swinging the bat, its quite horrendous. Last 15 AB's have included 8 strikeouts and only 2 hits. Napoli looked terrible tonight in crunch time against Rodney!

f*** ACEVES!!!!

Well Iannetta hasn't look good on the past two steals (Ellsbury and Ciriaco).. I liked it, it was aggressive.. just a smart move by Scioscia to pitch out..

Would people be happy if the Sox go 85-77.. that would make them 23-10 in the last 33 games.. Idk I feel like this team is doing better after the trade.. Let me dream people!

What a catch by Lavarnway.. Kalish looks terrible out there by the way.. Looks like a lost puppy, at the plate, in right field.. Glad to see Buchholz bring it together and close out the 7th!

Like one of the users said, he might be too close to some of the current players on the roster. But Schilling was on SC the other day and said Tek would be a great fit in Boston. Said Tek gets so much respect in that clubhouse. Would love to see Schilling here as a pitching coach. Tek and Schilling still live in New England, Tek in Acushnet (nearby for me) actually saw him at a Stop and Shop and Schilling I believe in Milton, I've seen him around the softball fields in Somerset.

But this is almost like a cleaning house deal. Bobby V bumped heads with Youk, he is gone Bobby V bumped heads with Beckett, he is gone A-Gon did the whole text messaging thing about Bobby V, he is gone Who's next Pedroia? Lester? I'm interested to see where the Red Sox go. There only 7 games out of the wild card, they still have 2, 3 game sets with the Yankees, Orioles and Blue Jays. A 4 and 2 game set with the Rays as well. Still lot of baseball left and since this trade they are 3-1. I know its the Royals but this is the same Royals team who was down in Tampa the series before us and gave them trouble. I feel like there still will be another trade the Sox make before the 31st. And its almost like, do you cheer for this team this year? Or just hope to look at future prospects and look forward to next year? It is indeed a weird time to be a fan..

A-Gon is a great player. No doubt, but he is, and will always be a great player on a mediocre team (Padres). A-Gon bitched about the road schedule, the text messaging thing, and he recently said if it wasn't for the Green Monster he'd have 30 homeruns easily. It's excuse after excuse with this guy. He didn't show up for the first 3 months of the damn year. Teams give him no respect when it comes to pitching to him. Remember when teams would dilly dally around Ortiz and Ramirez? He lost power this season.. Plus the Sox weren't trading Gonzalez unless the Dodgers took Crawford and Beckett. Beckett you cannot make a case for. He's totally lost it. Is NOT a dominant pitcher any more. Fans booed him everytime he took the mound. He was just a terrible contract and at 32 was all worth trading. Crawford and Punto are the only ones you can make a case for in this trade. Punto played good for us and never complained. Crawford had a bad first season, but I really thought he'd turn it around this year but this injury I think just gave the front office more of an initiative to get rid of him and his terrible contract. This was a great trade. Got rid of two prima donna's and guys who weren't playing there contracts. Gained some very good prospects as well, Webster and De La Rosa..

He's going to be MLB ready in 2013? Dude Jack Marder is miles ahead of him.. Again Seattle want prospect players MLB READY IN 2013.. Who is out there for us to grab then as a #1 in FA? Nobody and Buchholz can't be a #1 due to consistent injury problems every year. And Lester can't and won't be a #1 if Bobby V is still here..

Thats already been on the DL 3 times.. And just recently.. kid looks injure prone to say the least.. But hes playing catcher in Single A and has stole 16 bases. Clearly he isn't going to be a catcher at the MLB level.. scouts have him changing positions to either 3B or OF..

Were giving up 3 top 10 prospects.. Bradley, Lavarnway and Iglesias.. And were adding a guy who is coming along (Lester) towards the end of the year, as someone previously posted Lester's last couple of starts. I think there shopping Lester HEAVY. He's on waivers as well and so is Ellsbury. Lester is from Washington.. He would love to go back out West.. Same with Ellsbury. Some people don't seem to get that Seattle will demand prospects that are MLB ready.. We have them- Bradley, Lavarnway and Iglesias. That fills 3 holes for them and you submit them in your lineup and there already a better team. And Montero will be a DH for years to come. His technique is poor at the catching position. He'll be either primary DH or 1B. If conditioned he could develop to a 3B but thats a long shot as well.

Except they didn't give up a veteran, word series, previous dominant pitcher of a stature like Lester.. Lester has some value in this trade people.. You put him out in his hometown, and a better environment then he is currently, in Boston and he could EASILY regain that dominance..

But we gave Beckett a huge contract extension at the age of 30.. You get Felix here.. and you can extend him.. I just don't know how Seattle can turn this down: 2B Ackley CF Bradley Jr 3B Seager DH Montero C Lavarnway RF Saunders 1B Smoak LF Thames SS Iglesias SP: Lester, FA Righty*, Vargas, Iwakuma, and Beavan * Edwin Jackson, Dice-K, James Shields, etc. Makes them contenders out west with the Angels, a rising A's team, and the Rangers.

Felix is all worth it.. He is the real deal.. Martinez: 84-46, 2.98 ERA, 1,221 K, 373 BB, 1,146 IP, 1.10 WHIP. He won his first Cy Young award when he was 25. Hernandez: 97-72, 3.16 ERA, 1,443 K, 469 BB, 1,576.0 IP, 1.20 WHIP. He won his first Cy Young award when he was 24. Martinez's numbers before joining the Sox.. And look at Hernandez's.. 2005 (Rookie Year) and 2008 were the only years he didn't reach double digit wins..

I just don't think its as unrealistic as people think.. We have the prospects that have seen some MLB time, a veteran pitcher who WILL be dominant in a different and more home like environment..

Hey whatever it gets to land this guy. Giving up 6 players to gain a dominant, MLB proven pitcher and a wearing down utility guy I have no problem with..

Bogaerts is untouchable.. Seattle needs players MLB ready in 2013!! They have the backing now, and if they start winning now, that team will be through the roof. Iglesias is a huge upgrade over Ryan and Kawaski.. defensively and even offensively because Brendan Ryan is terrible hitting under .200 Attendance? Seattle clearly didn't care much trading Ichiro away.. He was an icon in Seattle for YEARS and most of the Asian population make trips to Seattle to watch him play. The jersey sales as well with him.. If the team is winning, attendance will come. Look at Pittsburgh and now the Dodgers. Lester would fill some seats too.. Mostly of his family

But just think of the rotation we would have with.. Hernandez, Buchholz, Doubront, De La Rosa, and Morales down the road? Phew..

We gave up 4 prospects to get Beckett, Lowell and Mota. We gave up Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez and Jesus Delgado. Compared to what we might be giving up in this trade? Seattle would lovely accept if you ask me because it gives them major league ready prospects to start in 2013.. Lester, Lavarnway, Iglesias, Bradley Jr., Pimental/Tazawa/Rinaudo/Wilson, and if that doesn't complete it I would throw Nava/Sweeney in there. Seattle would be a hell of a team in 2013 with that trade..