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I would say Rendon or Stras for sure. Also they should have walked Rendon. That is a gut punch there.

Ya fair enough. Regardless Houston’s offence isn’t doing their part. They must have had like 15 men on base and just 2 runs. Won’t win that way. 4-2 Nats wow. I’m off to bed folks. Sick and tired. Hope the Nats hang on!!

Should have left Greinke in. But Houston’s offence needs to do more than 2 runs.

Wow 3-2 NATS!!!!! Holy s***.

Finally nats get a run! One run game.

Same! I hate this time of year. I like NFL but it isn’t the same. And NHL in my opinion isn’t even close.

Moon I thought I said stop with the stats and numbers. I get head aches you know lol

Rough night for Scherzer

Cards always make playoffs with a s*** record somehow lol and then do well except 2013. They were really good. But we still beat them.

Here we f***ing go.

Agreed, I actually joined the Astros board last yera when we were playing them in the playoffs. They are good folks!

Agreed As long as it is the Nats lol! Just hoping for a hell of a game to finish a hell of a series.

You go Kimmi!!!!!!!!

By the way that one poster was me lol. Playoffs a crapshoot? You bet your ass I guess another point. Super teams in MLB for some reason aren’t the same as NBA. NBA a super team like the Heat will go the finals, Golden State with Curry and Durant will go. MLB the chances are still good but not near The other sports. Baseball is just different for whatever reason in my opinion.

Alright lol I'll end here... You and Kimmi can debate for a bit lmao.

5 out of 16. My original point was never who wins it all.... Was actually playoffs in general, but now teams that go to the World Series. 5 out of 16 (32% roughly) is about every 4 years an under dog goes to the World Series. Too risky for me to put money on it that's for sure. That is a crapshoot, or crapshoot enough that I don't feel confident picking the two teams who will meet at the World Series. Bigger crapshoot than the other major sports that's for sure. So is 32% a crapshoot? To me it is..... Yes the odds are still better if you go with the team with the best record but 32% is still a gamble. Edit: By the way where I get my 5 03 Marlins 05 Astros (finished with 89 wins, Cards and Braves finished with better records) 06 Cardinals 2011 Cardinals 2012 Detroit Tigers You could even put the Texas Rangers in there from 2010. The Rays, Yankees and Twins all had better records than the Rangers. That brings up to 6 teams in 16 years. 37%

Moon, I would love to agree with you. You're an intelligent man who knows his stuff...... But I just can't do it this time. You're wrong. You make a valid case for the Marlins ( I barely remember that year) However I counter that with..... Most people aren't like you and can dive into their roster and stats and see through the s*** record... Most just see the record and assume they aren't super great like me. I do the same thing with the NFL though as I have been watching it for years and I swear I was one of the only people on the face of the Earth that thought the Giants could knock the Pats off in 07. Giants were red hot down the stretch, had previously gave the Pats one of their toughest games of the regular season. Also the Giants went into the 13-3 Dallas Cowboys stadium and beat them, then went on the road to the 13-3 Packers and beat them. The giants ended up winning in one of the biggest underdog stories of all time. IN MY OPINION I honestly don't think they were that big of an underdog because they had the top defense in the playoffs and one of the best run attacks in the NFL. They were a very loaded team and arguably had the best wide receiver at the time in Plaxico Burris (infact by the end of season the best defense) And Eli was absolutely incredible the second half of the season.I thought the Giants had the best chance to beat the Pats (better chance than the 11-5 Steelers, 13-3 Colts, 13-3 Packers, 13-3 Cowboys) And yet.... It's still a massive underdog story being that they finished 10-6 and were a Wild Card team facing the 18-0 mighty Patriots. Nobody dives in and actually looks at how good the Giants were that season. Same with your argument about the Marlins. They were still an under dog story regardless of the spin people put on. I agree with you that they obviously had an incredibly talented team that year, but I don't think anyone was expecting a World Series from them, and then even further to beat the Yankees. Same with the 06 Cards and the 2011 Cards and the 2010 Rangers who finished with 90 wins. Yankees, Rays, Twins all finished better record. That's 4 teams making the World Series in 16 years. Every 4 years in my opinion it seems an under dog goes to the World Series. I guess it isn't 50/50 which if that is what a crapshoot means then I agree with you..... However it seems to happen more than any other sport.... To the point I would never want to put money on a team for sure going to the World Series. NFL you could put money on the Pats, Saints, Packers and good chance you will be a rich man.

Shhhh, no more debating now Moon. Now we hug and agree to disagree. No more stats. It's giving me a head ache lol.

Well the title is are playoffs a crapshoot? Not is it a crapshoot who goes to the World Series... Also I think both Cards World Series were huge upsets, and Marlins beating Yankees in 03. 3 times in 16 years big under dogs have won it all, yes that isn't that much but under dogs win in the playoffs a lot more in MLB than any other sport. Also Giants winning it all in 2014 with a record of 88-74 was a good under dog story. They had the worst record in the playoffs that year. 2012 World Series had Detroit in who I believe also had the worst record in that playoffs that year. They didn't win it all but they still made it. That is now 5 times in 16 years. Pretty much every 3'rd year an Under Dog makes it. Lately however it's been pretty accurate with the top team winning it all. Meh going in circles, tired of debating lol.

Sometimes those teams ride that high all the way through though. I know the NFL is different but the lone super Bowl Peyton won for the Colts was when they were a Wild Card team. Baseball is different as it's a lot more games, but it really just depends who is hot at the right time. I'm not saying it's always an under dog going to the World Series, but under dog teams win in the playoffs ALL the time in MLB. A page or so ago I posted quite a few times.

I still thought it was a crapshoot between the Dodgers, Nats and Braves. I never really thought the Cards had any chance but surprisingly they beat out the Braves. Never would have saw that coming. I'm not saying the Top dog doesn't usually go to the World Series because it looks that way.... But MLB playoffs in general is just hard to predict. Maybe I have better luck with the NFL, but I usually always predict the playoffs right. Even two evenly matched teams. I predicted Colts beating Texans last year, but lost to the Chiefs and Chiefs would play Pats. NFC I said the Rams would go to the Super Bowl and it would come down to them vs Saints. No way I would have predicted it coming down to the Cards and Nats. Yankees and Astros however I predicted. But it was definitely a crapshoot of who would win that series. No way I would have put money on Houston to run away with that series or Yankees to run away with it. Two evenly matched teams. In my opinion by the end of the NFL season I usually am right with who will play in the conf final and go to the Super Bowl unless it's 2 very very evenly matched teams. For example Pats vs Colts in 2006/2007 Conf final. Vikes/Saints 2009 etc, Patriots/Broncos 2015 etc.

Lol see, beautiful!

Baseball to me is like the NFC playoffs in the NFL..... crapshoot..... AFC it's pretty a much given that the Patriots will go to the Super Bowl, when Peyton was still playing then it was a toss up between Colts/Broncos or Patriots. NFC especially this year you have Saints, Packers, 49ers, Seahawks, Rams, Vikings who all could be a threat and go to the Super Bowl. I would say Dallas..... but they choke far too often lol (sorry any Dallas fans out there)

Very true! Different opinions about baseball and playoffs and teams is what makes this sport great. If everyone agreed with each other it would make it boring.

Lol, yes it does.... I made this point with Moon earlier..... It's utterly ridiculous that now we are building a case of "Well they got hot at this period, they had an easier schedule, bla bla bla" That is only for the true die hards of baseball to know. Hell I wouldn't even know who got hot at what period and who had the tougher schedule. End of the day most people look at the record and not when a team got hot or not hot especially in baseball because there is 160 plus games. NFL it's a bit easier because there is only 16 games. So if a team starts 0-5 but then wins 11 straight most people know.... However in baseball if a team gets hot after the first 80 games it's a bit more difficult to track. "Not a true upset, this team was red hot at this point in this season" "This team had a weak schedule" "This team had a much tougher schedule, finished with 10 less wins but because of their tough schedule they are just as good" Get outta here with that s***, I won't even touch those stats. And personally I think that is just a cop out way of getting a point across. A simple stat you can go by is the Dodgers won the regular season series 4 games to 3 and out scored the Nats 31 to 27. Funny, people are acting like they saw the Nats going on to win it all at the beginning of the playoffs. I think I saw one person say the Nats were dangerous and could win it all.