jacksonianmarch

Balance is needed for sure. There is not enough room for all the prospects. Some must be dealt

Hosmer has posted a negative UZR/150 for 2 straight years and is a strong minus defensively in fangraphs ratings every year he has played.

Jagielo went for Chapman. Clarkin went in the Robertson deal

Hosmer will be a massive bust

Judge and Clarkson were. Jagielo went ahead of them

Cotham and Davis were used to get Chapman. Either way, the deal of Chapman did bring Warren back, so that much is true. Aside from him, we haven't reaped the benefits of the fire sale yet. But we will

No recent grads were in the firesale unless you want to consider Frazier?

I laid it out for you above. The trades helped build the farm, but the INTL signings and the draft have been more numerous and more profitable at this point than the sell off was

Yes, they spent heavy to keep their players. But they were their players initially. The major spending didn't come down until after 2001

The Yankees were $3 mil over the sox and dodgers in 2001, $2 mil above the dodgers in 2000, $7 mil above the Rangers in 1999, $7 mil behind the Orioles in 1998, $5 mil above the Orioles in 1997, $4 mil above the Orioles in 1996. There was no "grossly overspending" anyone. Yes, they were either 1 or 2 for the 5 years stated above, but they were in the ballpark with the top 10 for sure. It took off after 2001.

Analytics are the huge hot button topic right now. Expect the Yankees to be copied. They changed their scouting approach to include measurable data. Exit velocities, spin rates, dynamic evaluations, new age stuff. And for the most part, it has worked. I expect their farm to be copied something fierce

The Yankees built their farm and current squad through a multitude of facets. Look at the list of guys on the big league and prospect ladder MLB Sanchez- INTL signee Bird- draft pick Torres- Fire sale Trade Gregorius- Trade of a rookie Andujar- INTL signee Gardner- draft Hicks- trade of a rookie Judge- draft Stanton- trade of prospects (and money) Severino- INTL Tanaka- FA Montgomery- draft Sabathia- FA Gray- trade of prospects Betances- draft Chapman- FA (trade initially) Warren- draft (trade later) Robertson- draft (trade later) Green- trade of a veteran Kahnle- draft, trade later Prospects- Florial- INTL signee Sheffield- fire sale trade Frazier- fire sale trade Wade- draft Estrada- INTL signee Adams- draft Acevedo- INTL signee Tate- fire sale trade Perez- INTL signee Solak- draft Abreu- trade, not fire sale (McCann had no place to play) That's 7 INTL signees, 11 guys initially drafted by NYY, 2 players traded for by pooling prospects, 4 fire sale trades, 4 similar value trades and 3 FAs. (BTW, 3 of our previously drafted players were re-acquired in trades, Kahnle, Robertson and Warren). So while everyone seems to want to point to a fire sale as to how to rebuild fast, it isn't really true

Brannen has the physical projection, but any time you snag a guy who is more athlete than hitter you wonder if the hit tool will progress. Hauck screams reliever to me, but I think he could be a good one. That being said, nobody, not the guys scouting him, the guys coaching him or guys like me typing at a keyboard has any clue what he will become ultimately. Regardless, I think Scherff has the highest ceiling, Hauck the lowest floor and Brannen is a potential boom or bust as well. The rest of their top 10 grades out as potential big leaguers without the flash to be all star caliber barring something unforeseen.

I don’t agree with that. The Pirates picked in the top 10 for twenty straight years and they didn’t even have a superstar until McCutchen came along. Yes, picking at the back end of a draft means you won’t be able to get the can’t miss guys like Harper and Strasburg. But it doesn’t mean you can’t find a Mike Trout later in the draft. Very few teams win a title without good drafting and development. But the development part is key. Drafting is like picking the raw diamonds that look the best. Development is crafting and cutting them into works of art. You need both. If you get s*** diamonds it doesn’t matter how good you cut and shape them. If you get great diamonds, but your craftsmen are butchers then it’ll look like s***. You need both

At the beginning, there was Bernie, Posada, Pettitte, Rivera and Jeter. All but Jeter was available to every club at least once. The deal to send Kelly for O'Neill was great. Tino was brought in for what amounted to nothing. Boggs was a castaway. Cone was brought in via trade to pair with an aging Key and upstart Pettitte to form a solid top 3 of a rotation. But it started with the core 5. All 5 are either close to HOFers or HOFers in their own right. Along the way, we made deals via FA or trade to acquire Clemens, Brosius, El Duque, Mike Stanton, David Wells, David Justice et al. It wasn't until 2002 that we became the evil empire. From 95-01, a 7 year stretch, we made the playoffs in every year, won 4 titles, went to the WS 5 times and effectively had a team centered on a core from within surrounded by players acquired via our deep farm system. Stick Michael and Bob Watson deserve a lot of that credit and Cashman shepherded us through the last 5 years of that. After 2001, we probably should have allowed for some attrition for a year or two and then rebuilt, but George wasn't going to use his final few years to rebuild. Without going nuts on Mussina and Giambi, we probably would have made the POs in 02 then faded out in 03 and 04 as the sox rose prior to a rebuild centered on future HOFer Robby Cano. Either way, the Yankees would probably have stayed above .500 without the money but they would have had to be mediocre for a couple years that they went to the WS and the ALCS respectively.

Jake Odorizzi on the Yankees radar. I hope it is not true. Extreme flyball pitcher who outperforms his FIP due to high K rates. BB rate went 50% higher last yr as did HR rate. Moving him from a pitchers park in TB to a hitter park in NYC would be problematic. Let him go to someone else

I’m not as big a “crapshoot” believer. Yes, upsets happen, but for the most part, the better teams win. This isn’t the NBA where the better teams always win. But it’s not close to the NHL where it really is a crapshoot

Jaded by success? They finished last 3 of 4 years before going on to win the ALE twice. I don't think it's jaded by success. I think it was seeing a team that didn't look like a title contender, even though they were

One thing I will say for us is that our draft model was weird. We already had a TON of impact pitching in the system. Yes, we ended up moving Clarkin, Kaprielian and Guzman, but we still have impact arms galore with them gone. Going pitching deep was an interesting choice. It makes some sense when you see the INTL guys we brought in. We always seem to nab pitching in the draft and lean position player heavy internationally.

He did what he had to do. The Yanks have a deep farm system and we wont be able to keep all the players we are developing. Filling the ranks with multiple mid range prospects would have been dumb. If we dealt away our depth and had a bad year on the farm, then doing what DD did would have been smart. These guys who were drafted immediately shoot to the top of the position rankings in the system and give a bit of depth to a system that lacked it.

It is. I also laugh at the people who rate the drafts. The sox got an A- and the Yankees got anywhere from a C+ to a B-. The sox got an A- because they drafted guys "who may have limited ceilings but certainly have high floors". That's for sure. The sox basically drafted from the baseball America manual. I think when you are restocking a farm system, that's a pretty solid way to go. Get guys who will remain prospects. They likely aren't going to be the next Mike Trout, but maybe they help fill out a roster or be dealt for something. I get the sox had to do that. They couldn't go boom or bust on every pick and risk busting when their farm is terrible. NYY did it completely differently. We grabbed a bunch of guys with promise and high boom or bust potential. We shall see how the pundits flesh out.

The sox were the most boring 93 win team I’ve seen.

I totally f***ing blanked on Rizzo. Wow

By dealing for AdGon, you lost some good prospects (who turned into nothing, but who knows what happens if they stayed)The top end was either in the bigs for a bit or low minors. Hence, the farm was thin. Just look at the guys you graduated from 04-10. Youk, Pedey, Paps, Buch, Lester, etc. it wasn’t til Bogey came on in 13 that the farm showed up again.

I’ve been saying that since the sox traded for Sale, Pom, and Thornburg. Once you did that, your window was declared and you might as well maximize it