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Guys, this is WAY bigger than the Pedroia thing. That was gamesmanship with some technology. This is a camera focused in on the catcher with someone relating the signs to the batter. It was bad enough that a member who got a World Series ring who is still playing ratted them out. And, the team that cheated won the whole damn thing. Imagine how much MLB is relieved that Kendrick hit that homer and the Nats won. A dynasty with two titles in three years built off cheating. People will be suspended for a LONG time. Fines will be huge. Draft picks will be taken.

This is the Sox forum and now the manager of the Red Sox is implicated. That’s the new news of the day

This 2017 Astros sign stealing admission from Mike Fiers is taking off. Now three other former Astros have confirmed this and the three guys at the center are all managers now. Hinch is still manager of the Astros. Cora now manager of the Sox. And 2017 Astros DH Carlos Beltran is now manager of the Mets. All have been implicated in an elaborate technological method of stealing signs from the catcher using a camera hidden in the CF wall and relayed to the hitter by banging on garbage cans in the dugout. This pisses me off as a Yankee fan. We kicked their ass at our park in 2017 in the ALCS yet lost all four games in Houston, including 3 1 run games. This is the ultimate in cheating. Punishments should be extremely severe. Multiple first round picks. Multi million dollar fines. Major suspensions for those who concocted this. And Hinch should lose a full season for being the final say so. This couldn’t come at a worse time for the Astros. They just won the ROY and CY and have a good shot at MVP. They were three innings from winning another WS. But with the Brandon Taubman incident really showing that the Astros front office doesn’t know how to navigate this day and age and now the Astros being the only ones investigating at this point, it’s clear MLB needs to investigate and fix this

Wow, you shoot high. Eloy and Kopech? Smith and Joc? I think Nimmo and Matz is far more likely and heck, I prognosticated that back in the summer with zero prompting from the media. It’s makes far more sense since Betts will render Nimmo obsolete and with the Mets having a 3 headed monster on the mound, Matz would be expendable. It isn’t the return you’d hope for, but it’s the most realistic return considering Betts single year of control and his high price tag.

Don’t want you to self ban. No way. You love Pedey and that’s cool. Pedey’s mind may be right, but his body isn’t. He’s getting hope, and that’s cool, but it’s likely a false hope. If he comes back, I’ll root for him to play well enough to lose every game

Why do PRP for grade 1 tendinitis? Doesn’t make sense. Why see Andrews for a negative tear MRI? One of the gifts I was given in my training was to read through ******** when it comes to medical treatments, drugs, etc. as there’s a lot of misinformation. I’m seeing a treatment here for a partial or complete tear yet a media report of “mild tendinitis”. It is his medical information, so maybe he hasn’t given permission beyond what was stated to disseminate anything else? Maybe the Sox want more people to buy season tickets with the hope he isn’t more hurt than he is? Who knows, but the treatment doesn’t fit the stated disease

Don’t want 1 year of $30 mil Betts and give away 4 years of Andujat plus Frazier, Gil and King. That’s a horrible deal for the Yanks

And how can you say Sale will be “fine”. He dropped 1.5 mph off his FB and gave up more than double his standard homer in rate. Listen, there’s a comp here with Sabathia. CC started to see the HR rate tick up in 2012 from 0.6ish to 1. He had surgery to remove bone spurs from his elbow that offseason and returned with a 1.5 mph drop in velocity. For a few seasons, he soldiered on with lower velocity putting up sparkling peripherals and being largely ineffective due to a massive HR rate. It wasn’t until he changed his approach and embraced the junk balling side of him that he started to outperform his declining peripherals. Sale’s peripherals are still awesome, but he is underperforming due to the rising HR rate. That will continue the longer he pitches like he still has his fastball. Also, you haven’t seen Sale post this elbow injury. He could have lost even more velocity (more likely he will actually). My bet is Sale, if healthy enough to pitch, will be a 5 inning pitcher going forward with an ERA in the 4’s yet still maintaining the high K rate and good walk rate. He will intermittently turn back the clock but mix in far more clunkers than Sox fans are used to

Reading comprehension my friend. Most tendinitis involves microtears. Those aren’t “partial tears” which can be seen on imaging. Microtears are only seen as inflammation. Run of the mill tendinitis heals with rest. The more serious types can heal with rest, but they take longer and the stability isn’t the same

They’d have to DFA him as he’s already on the 40 man. The Sox shouldn’t be facing a big 40 man crunch since their minor league talent is thin, especially at the upper levels

This is a puff piece with no substance. “Tendinitis” entails a tear. Now, most tendinitis involves microtears (seen only as inflammation) that heal with rest. You don’t do PRP on run of the mill tendinitis. My bet is he had a partial tear a la Tanaka and it will be healed by the PRP. The problem with the partial tears healing with PRP is that the ligament doesn’t get reinforced and typically the procedure fails or the player returns with diminished velocity. I have said before that it’s better for the Sox if Sale just had gotten TJS. Yes, he’s miss 2020, but there’s a chance you’ll see fireballing Sale in 2021. Now with the shoulder sapping his power and an elbow repaired via PRP, I am fairly confident that Sale’s best stuff is well behind him. He’s going to need to get more dynamic because that 96+ mph fastball isn’t going to reliably be in his arsenal

And it still counts to the LT, but it can get Pedey involved with the younger guys. I think this is likely what they’re doing. Give Pedey a snowball’s chance in hell of making it back, but be a good example for the young kids in ST

You cannot put him on the 60 day DL until February or March, so he is taking up a 40 man spot through the Rule V. That’s the only potential gain to dumping him now. Otherwise I agree with you

Not sure why we’re discussing the merits of a Yankee player who hasn’t played in 5 years and is gonna enter Cooperstown in July on a realistic view of 2020 thread. Just read an article on Yahoo about Bloom and his job ahead. The Sox got 36 starts in place of Eovaldi, Price and Sale. The starters were 3-15 with a 6.79ERA. Now that possibility exists again with your killer three being so oft injured, but now Porcello is a FA. They’re postulating the Sox may need 10 at least viable starters in 2020 especially with the health issues of the three above.

He had some leg soreness intermittently, but DH was by design. Last year we would have needed him in the OF

Rumors of the Yankees (more spitballing it seems) could be interested in a Villar/Givens package. The O’s are rumored to be DFA’ing Villar if he doesn’t get dealt, so I’d give almost nothing for him since his arb number looks to be around $11 mil. Givens is fine by me. Coming off a down season, he’s got the power to be really useful in this pen. I certainly wouldn’t give them anything of value

Jeter was still a 73 WAR player with 5 rings, so it isn't like he was overrated. He was never a great rangy shortstop. He was the kind of guy who made the routine plays every time and had a way of making the harder plays as well. He just wasn't getting to the balls in the hole or up the middle that his peers were getting to. All in all, he probably should have been the 3b when we got Arod, but he was too proud for that. I watched at least 70% of the games he played in his career, and I am aware of the DRS and UZR deficiencies. He wasn't a good defender, but he wasn't the butcher early on that he became later, especially after the ankle injury

Ben ran the Sox like a small market club. His big market moves were the biggest question. He will now get his chance running a small market squad.

Joc’s inability to hit lefties isn’t overblown. The guy absolutely cannot hit lefties. He’s a platoon player

I’m going off of the cues you guys are laying down. You don’t want him in the field because he gets hurt. I get it. Your upside by putting him in the field isn’t there. Let him DH only. He’s an elite DH. No need to fit a square peg in a round hole

While it sounds like the guy is a good analytic and ergonomic guy, this to me sounds like a guy who will develop talent rather than maintain. This hire has me wondering if we dabble in the FA starter market at all.

By saying he’s frail, I’m not pointing out anything you guys don’t know. He’s had a foot issue that he seems to have conquered. He then had a back issue that he worked through. My point with JD is, what’s his upside? Is he gonna be a great defender? Will being on defense cause a greater chance of injury?

They’ll be bidding against themselves

The elbow isn’t a problem. The problem is that he’s become a dead pull hitter and almost all his power comes in YS where he can homer on a 320 foot can of corn. I think he’s gonna find a more diminished market than most pundits think as a lot of his offense is the product of the park

Depends on what the team looks like. Would you be willing to have a goodbye tour for Mookie in a sox uni then lose him for a comp pick or would you rather deal him for some top prospects and get something more substantial? If the sox look good on paper going into 2020 then you ride with him, but they really don't right now. Lots would need to change for that to be the case