What about runners at 2nd and 3rd, or 1st and 3rd, or 2nd, or 3rd?
If we're playing this game (we shouldn't be, but whatever), why is bases loaded the only RBI opportunity? Here are his stats in other RISP situations:
2nd: .310/.465/.537/1.002
3rd: .250/.406/.470/.875
1st and 2nd: .271/.386/.470/.856
1st and 3rd: .306/.369/.556/.924
2nd and 3rd: .282/.454/.487/.941
Send me a slice of that cherry pie.
Just curious, how did you get to that figure? VORP?
Obviously 612 is incorrect, because individual RBI are a product of the situation. A guy that gets on base 40% of the time is going to give the guys behind him in the order more chances to drive him in. If there is a team of JD Drews, more guys will be on base and thus more will score, leading to more runs.
This is completely dishonest and a logical fallacy. You should really listen to Theo's statement in the OP of the thread. He put it better than any of us can.
Those are specific situations, we're talking about RBIs as a statistic for an individual player.
This is literally what Theo Epstein said. I am not making any of these words up:
“You guys can talk about RBIs if you want, I just … we ignore them in the front office … and I think we’ve built some pretty good offensive clubs. If you want to talk about RBIs at all, talk about it as a percentage of opportunity but it’s just simply not a way or something we use to evaluate offensive players.”
Good post. Joe Posnanski wrote a good piece about Theo as a response to his radio appearance about Drew. He said:
Theo has made his bad moves, like every other GM has. But his philosophy and his business model is a very sound one, and he has executed it every season, with the exception of the one year in which he wasn't a GM for the offseason prior.
According to WARP, Martinez added about 2 wins. So we probably do make the playoffs without him. I'm certainly not trying to take anything away from Martinez or the trade--it was a great trade and he's a great player.
Another winner is the Metrodome for hosting the two biggest sporting events in the US in those two days: Monday Night Football and a potential one game playoff.