TheKilo

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3761008 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711681&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp Holy crap

I don't buy it. Smells like a PR move. "Hey look, we're trying to build a winner here!"

Goddamnit this should have been a poll. Oh well. My limit is 8 years, 160 million dollars. Even then I don't feel supremely comfortable giving Teixeira that kind of money. Under this ownership, the two biggest contracts given out were Drew's 5/70, and DiceK's 6/101 (). At that point, it seemed like a lot of money. I don't see them pushing the $200 million threshold. Double the largest contract they've ever given? Doesn't seem plausible, especially with the current economic scenario in this country. If 8/160, playing on the east coast, and playing for a contender doesn't fit Teixeira's wants, I think you need to walk away.

The question says it all. What's the biggest contract you would offer Mark Teixeira?

The Santana deal was good, but I'm not sure I'd be so quick to call the KRod deal a good one. The 4th year option is apparently very easy to attain, and the fact his K/9 has decreased while his BB/9 has increased put up some red flags for me. 3/37 is not bad right now, but we still need to see how KRod fares.

I think your comment on FIP shows more of how his season was a fluke last year than BABIP, because it does a better job of taking into account the "luck" factor that BABIP does, which is how the ball is fielded behind him. Put another way, it's easier to tell whether or not a hitter is having good or bad luck through BABIP (good luck - Ellsbury in '07, bad - Pedroia in April '07) .

Weren't Wright and Reyes part of the regime before Minaya? i really can't think of many positive moves he's made.

Yessir

Arod is an average 3B at best, Jeter is the worst defensive player in the game at the most important position on the diamond, Cano hasn't had a good defensive year other than 2007, and Swisher is a below average 1B. Corners should be "OK", up the middle will be awful.

He has a point, although I think BABIP judges luck much better for a hitter than a pitcher.

The Yankees infield D is probably the worst in the ALE, maybe the AL.

I don't think anyone will dispute the player CC Sabathia is. But to praise the Yankees for signing him in this manner is foolish. They outbid their closest competitor by $45-$60 million dollars (unless you count themselves) and they gave CC a chance to opt out of his contract on top of it. They literally bent over backwards for this guy. There is tremendous risk with the way this contract is structured. The opt-out clause is very interesting because in my opinion, three things can happen: a. CC is dominant for the first three seasons of the contract, opts out. b. CC is mediocre for the first three seasons of the contract, remains in NYY. c. CC is terrible/injured for the first three seasons of the contract, remains in NYY. The best case scenario for the Yankees is clearly option (a), where he earns his $23 million the first three years. But when he leaves, who will replace him? What does the FA class for pitchers look like in 2011? Will the young Yankee arms stay healthy and develop like they hope? Option ( involves Sabathia being a mediocre pitcher for the first three years, then heading into the territory of the contract that involves the most risk for him healthwise. Like Jacko said, his knees, back, and hips will start to deteriorate at this point. Big Man Syndrome. If CC stays put because he knows he can't get more than $23 million elsewhere, the Yankees are looking at a huge albatross for those four seasons. Option © is the worst case scenario where his albatross phase manifests itself very early. The Yankees are then stuck with a Pavano-like contract, only this is the richest for any pitcher in the history of the game. It's an odd situation where, from the perspective of the Yankees, the best thing CC can do is be great for three years and then leave them with no contingency plan after 2011.

Misquoted, I was referring to when you said the yanks win one, and then CC opts out.

BSN07...I linked to that Yahoo article he just quoted like three posts prior.

did you not read my post?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-sabathiayankees121008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1 Wow. That's very interesting.

I've heard speculation on another board he can opt out after two years, is this true??

Just saying. DiceK's contract is not for over $100 million.

As for the deal itself, it reeks of desperation on the Yankees end, but I have to say he's the guy to overpay for in this FA class. Outbidding your closest competitor by $60 million (known offers, my guess is someone would have come in around $115-120 million, making the difference about $40 million) just shows how much they needed the deal. I think if CC can give them Mussina type production over the course of the contract, it will be worth it for them. Terrible 2007 aside, Mike Mussina was a great pitcher for the Yankees for the duration of his contract, and was very durable. He's the guy to sign, but I can't be thriled about the length or the money if I'm a Yankee fan. For reference, these are the $100+ million pitchers in MLB history: Kevin Brown (Bust) Mike Hampton (Bust) Barry Zito (Bust) Johan Santana (Year 2 of 6 year deal, jury out)

Gee I wonder who this is.

Knowing the Mets, KRod blows out his shoulder by the ASB.