bigpapi349

ya it reminds exactly of last year

the marlins really arnt talking to anyone now. they said they want to wait 48 hours then see whats available.

BALTIMORE SUN Though a team source said the club has been discussing for a couple of weeks now moving Ponson to the long-relief role in the bullpen and bringing up Maine, his loss would still leave a void in the rotation. The hole will not be filled by Florida Marlins starter A.J. Burnett, who is not being courted by the Orioles anymore because they feel that he'll play for them for only two months and then sign a lucrative free-agent deal elsewhere. One industry source described the proposed deal of prospect Hayden Penn, outfielder Larry Bigbie and relievers Jorge Julio and Steve Kline for Burnett and third baseman Mike Lowell as "stone cold dead." If they get Nevin, the Orioles would have no place for Lowell, whom the Marlins have been insistent on packaging with Burnett. An industry source said that the Orioles plan to be aggressive in their search for a starter before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline, and that they could offer a package similar to the one that they extended to the Marlins for Burnett. However, they'd prefer not to include Penn. Some names that could be attractive to the Orioles are Pittsburgh Pirates starter Kip Wells, the Los Angeles Dodgers' Jeff Weaver and the Cleveland Guardians' Kevin Millwood.

ya but that schedule still kinda sucks

ya, millwood has a pretty good era (3.34) but is 3-9

Burnett - 47 BB 120 K (6th in NL) also ranked 3rd in complete games (3 cg, 1 SHO) Arroyo - 30 BB 68 K burnetts also given up 25 less hits than dontrell willis and has pitched only 10 fewer innings than him (burnett-111) his ground out to fly out ratio is 2.24 (167 ground outs to 82 fly outs) has let up 16 stolen bases this year and 4 caught stealing 8.67 K's per 9 and 8.01 hits per 9 2.50 K's per BB Arroyo has given up 121 hits. has a ground out to fly out ratio of 0.85 (130 ground out to 164 fly outs) only 1 stolen base this year. 5.00 K's per 9 and 8.90 hits per 9 2.43 K's per BB

contreras vs. arroyo tonight. It looks like one of these guys will be going to Florida

bronson can be a good pitcher, but doesnt have as much potential as burnett. They're both 28 so theres no issue with age. Arroyo loves it hear and is liked in the clubhouse so thats a positive. But i think he'll continue to struggle because hitters are use to him now and he relies to much on his inconsistent curveball.

hope we can get burnett. the only yankee that has had sucess against him in the past is tony womack

i dont no about giving up someone like Anibal Sanchez, i still like the three way trade with the twins

Bellhorns Stats against Contreras - 4-5 1 2B 2 HR 3 RBI 1 BB to bad hes unavailable

i think the Guardians think they are in the playoff race and wickman is a key piece for them. If dinardo for wickman was possible, then id do it.

arroyo looks good against the chi sox

alighit cool

where you get this stats???

definitely not a good deal, unless they can stay outside of their top 10 prospects which i dont see happenen. This guy is old(36), injury prone(injured the last 3 years, missed all of 2003 season). I think he'll collapse second half. he's like a dan kolb

i still think the best possibility is the three way trade with the marlins,sox and twins. the twins lost trying to get joe randa so there only option left might be mueller. if the sox could get loshe in the deal, i think the marlins might think about just arroyo and loshe(whos only 26).

agreed completely

im out. hopefully LA's pen can shut down the yankees till the 9th. then K-rod strikes out the side in order cya

W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 15 4 3.28 26 26 1 1 0 0 164.2 151 63 60 14 6 62 144 2002 pretty good if he could do wat he did in 2002 again this year and next

true. i dont think anymore major trades (burnett, romero) will happen for atleast 2 more days maybe even up to the deadline.

i think he can be a good #3 starter if he can control his walks to 1 or 2 per game. he had 4 tonight and still pitched a shutout

i still dont really want to give up a guy like Anibal

cabrera thrown out at 2nd by godzilla

hopefully milers trade stock went up. id rather see him go than arroyo