Like I said, the main reason I put that in my sig was that all the Yankee fans here, mostly jacko, were blaming Torre for every little thing, most of which wasn't his fault.
I agree, he was poor at managing the bullpen, but he made the playoffs every year...that has to count for something. I understand that the players get a lot of the credit for that, but some of it has to fall to the manager. He gets blamed when they lose but he gets no credit when they win? Something is wrong with that. You can't have it both ways. There were negatives with Torre, clearly, but it got to the point where the positives weren't being acknowledged and that's an issue in my book.