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To your first post, Theo should only do this trade if he knows they can re-sign Beltran

actually i think that this is a good trade for the red sox. And heres why: if the Red Sox were to trade for Beltran, they would make sure they could definitely re-sign Beltran. If I were Theo, if I acquired Beltran, I would offer him $14 Mil. X 7 years right off the bat. Thats the kind of money Beltran would be looking for, so whyt would he bother going therough the free agent market if he got the money he wanted already. I also strongly believe that the Red Sox will re-sign Varitek for 3 to 4 more years, and he will hold down the fort through 2007. As much as I'd hate to lose Shoppach and Youkilis, Beltran will emerge as one of the greatest Outfielders, and he is worth the price we will be giving up. Juan Cedeno does look good, but he lacks command and that could hurt him. My Final point is that Beltran is only 26, a year older than Youkilis. With Mueller/Bellhorn here for at least another year ( hopefully) they will be able to fill in while the Sox wait for Chad Spann to mature. Spann should be up in the bigs by 2006, and he is five years younger than Youkilis, and from what i understand is a better fielder, is faster, and has equal power. The only thing Chad Spann lacks from Youkilis is that Youki is an on-base machine, but Spann will get on a decent amount of times also. Shoppach is the killer in this whole deal. There is no other great catching prospect the Red Sox have, and if the Sox don't re-sign Varitek ( WHICH WON'T HAPPEN, I GUARANTEE WE WILL RE-SIGN HIM ) we will be screwed. But then again that is an IF. So, finally, the Red Sox should make this trade.

thanks Calvs, i was going to do that but i figured the facts are what is important

Here are some quick facts on the Red Sox 2003 First Round Pick: http://www.soxprospects.com/players/images/davidmurphy.jpg Age: 22 Born: October 18, 1981 Resides: Spring, TX Height: 6-3 Weight: 195 Bats: Left Throws: Left Drafted: 1st Round, 2003 How Acquired: Draft College: Baylor U. ETA: 2006

I'll take David Murphy, OF for Sarasota.

Yeah, we just kinda got that from Hoss, but hey, no worries.

actually, he's back tomorrow against San Diego BOOYA! http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=30898

Once the sox add in more talent, the Rockies will give into it. Hey, I got an idea. Why don't the Sox offer up DLowe. I know he's older and is a free agent at he end of the year, but he is a ground ball pitcher. I'm pretty sure that that is what the Rockie's need: someone who will give up ground balls instead of fly balls. And hey, the Red Sox can even offer some minor league talent accompanying Lowe. Who knows, maybe the thought of going to as big a hitter's park as Coor's will snap Lowe into reality and convince him to sign with the Sox. Just a few thoughts

what do u mean. the link i posted was the one w/ Damon and Kim going to Seattle for freddie garcia and a prospect. Then damon and kim would go to KC for beltran. I just dont understand wat u meant

this rumor isnt just from bdd.com either its all over the place. RUMOR RIGHT HERE

i would give up Youkilis and andy dominique for Zito in a heartbeat. Zito is just that good.

lol thats hilarious, but true

Affeldt is 0-3 and wakefield is 2-1. . . . hopefully we can win this game

i like to use benmaller.com great site for a baseball fan

woah, hold on, i never said we were winning becuz we dont have nomar. I just said we really don't need to rush him back right now and risk injuring him for the rest of the season. Think about it: Nomar doesn't come bak until June/July or even later. Even if he does well in hat time slot, is any team going to be willing to shell out 17 mil a year to him. This could work out for the Sox, where they could re-sign him for another year or two.

yes i heard this this mornin'. i am pretty sure i heard it on a radio station. Mayb this will b good, look wher his absence has got us now.

yeah, but do you think that Youkilis is going to start juicing up like Bagwell? Plus, if we trade Youkilis for someone like Beltran, he's still young and probably hasn't reached his prime yet. Besides it's not like we are trading Youkilis for Larry Anderson.

Yep, i'm new too, and i'm from NetSports and that is how i found this site. .

hey, before you guys kill me, or worse, excommunicate me from Red Sox Nation, hear me out. I don't think Youkilis will develop into quite the special player you think he will. Only because the kid is 24 and didn't do too well in AAA. I think that the best option right now for the Red Sox is to trade him for a superstar that is young ( cough ) Beltran ( cough ). I just don't think that he will develop into a superstar like you all do. All right thats all i got to say.

i didn't mean Hanley and Youkilis. . sorry yeszir. I meant one or the other. But if we were to trade one of them i would have meant for us to get a guy like Beltran, whose like 27, oly 2 years older than Youkilis. Plus, Beltran can do it all, incvluding hitting for power ( like your pal Youki can't do)

Since Derek Lowe looks like he will test the free-agent pool next year, why not just trade him. The Sox can trade him for another free-agent to be pitcher or package him in a deal for a bat. The pitcher I always thought about first was Matt Morris, the Cardinals' righty who is only 29. The Sox could also take a shot at packaging Lowe and perhaps a minor leaguer or two ( Youkilis, Hanley RAmirez ) and deal them for a bat like Ordonez or Beltran, both of whom will most likely be dealt in July if their teams are out of contention. REMEMBER, THESE ARE ONLY IDEAS, NOT RUMORS. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK

Thanks, yeszir.

As much as I would like for that trade to happen, and have the Red Sox develop, perhaps, the best 5-man rotation since, well, since ever, you got to look at what you're losing in this deal. You're giving up a great talent in nixon and getting Johnson for one one or two years ( until he retires ). Besides if Nixon is traded who would play in the outfield for him. We can't rely on just Millar, Burks, and Kapler to fill that space for the rest of the year. Unless we trade Nomar for Magglio. . . . . .