johndango
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No he's not an ace, but to his value to a team with no pitching and all hitting is pretty damn high.
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Definitely. I say if you're realistically trying to target someone in trade, you can't look at the aces. Look at the second tier of players. The 2-3s. Arizona has some interesting pitching talent- a lot of depth- and would maybe do a deal for some hitting, for example. Linecum, Cain, Felix, Chapman, Strausburg... I would eat my hat if you had a realistic chance of landing these guys.
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Safeco Field lessens his value. It lessens every bat's value. It makes pitching easy to come up with though I suppose. I personally believe Ellsbury's season was overachieved and don't expect this sort of performance again. Hell, he posted a negative WAR last season (though I would also consider that a fluke). I think his true value is somewhere in the range 2-3 WAR. Whereas I, trying to be totally realistic here, view Felix's true value somewhere in the range of 4-5 WAR. For comparisons sake we'll take the last 4 seasons of Ells' WAR (leaving the first one off because, hey, rookie.) He had: 3.5, 2.1, -0.3, 7.2. That represents his age 24-27 seasons. Felix on the other hand had 4.5, 5.8, 6.2, 4.7 in his age 22-25 seasons. I have to think that Ellsbury doesn't look all that attractive to the M's and IMO Ellsbury EDIT: He also had decent positive WAR numbers for the two years leading up to that.
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Look, honestly, If it were me, I'd trade him. I've watched good-great pitching in Seattle for the past decade, but I can't hardly remember the last time I was excited that someone was up to bat. I would love to have about just about anybody in the Red Sox' lineup. Seattle is a bandwagon city though. The fans, who are already avoiding Safeco like the plague, are not going to be okay with losing Felix. I think that's the last time I will say it. I just thought I'd let you know... it isn't happening. He's the Seattle Linecum. Again, if you want a good- realistic- pitcher from Seattle, rosterbate about Pineada. He had a 9.1 SO/9 this year. Second to Morrow. He'd be good in Boston and a name small enough still in Seattle that they could justify trading him for the right deal. baseball-reference.com/players/p/pinedmi01.shtml
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The Mariners are owned by Nintendo, Microsoft, and Boeing. They don't have to be concerned with money. As I said, they could afford Fielder or Pujols if either would actually sign with them.
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LOL. Let me help you there, I would nearly guarantee that there's almost no player combination that gets a Felix deal done, not being snippy- just honest. You'd have more chance going for Pineda, which if I were you I'd rather do anyway based on his age and salary. Also the Mariners could easily afford Ellsbury. They could afford Fielder or Pujols this year, there's just no way a player like that, truthfully, would sign with Seattle. I'm man enough to say it