There is only one difference between manny, bonds, clemsons, mac or any other assumed or convicted steroid user. Before 2003, steroid rules were very vague and easy to get around. After 2003 steroid rules were written strictly and consequences were set. Bonds, clemons, and the others all were assumed/convicted steriod users before 2003. In fact I believe that over 50% of MLB players used steroids during this era. I mean if you were an up and coming player and saw what steroids can do and know you wont get in trouble, why wouldnt you want to do them also. I believe eventually the younger generation will have majority votes for the Hall and it will boil down to the fact that those convicted before 2003 will get passes. Those convicted after 2003 will not get in because they went against league rules and legitimately "cheated." Sorry Manny, I really wish you will get in but unfortunately "manny being manny" came back to bite him and he is leaving a cheater....unfortunate.