Dojji
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I tried really hard to like this, but we basically got AAA filler. Blah.
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I don't think he made the playoff roster, did he? he may have been part of the team but he wasn't one of The 25.
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From the playoff roster, yes. Youks was on the bench for part of the season in 04
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Charlie Zink?
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Trot lite? LOL. Trot Nixon pretty much made his bread and butter here over a 3 year stretch during which he was actually one of the better players in the league -- right in the heart of the steroid era. We spent every season after 2003 saying "just wait until Trot gets healthy." At least Drew spread his productive years out over roughly a decade. Nixon was so, so overrated.
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per 98.5. Congratulations on a great career, Wake. It was time to hang it up, but your contributions to this team will be remembered. This got some play in the offseason threat but it's worth breaking out. However you feel about last year, this is a guy who did a lot for us so we should show him some respect.
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There's a gas leak around here somewhere. Watch yourselves.
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He helped us on the way to a World Series and gave us 2 other good years. That final year was part of the calculated risk with a players as fragile as Drew. On the field and statistically, he was a match for Nixon. Nixon gets bonus brownie points for being a Red Sox draft pick but realistically speaking, give me those two players and a roster spot to fill, I'd pick Drew over the course of their careers. Nixon has as many people around the fandom who overrate him, as Drew has haters.
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More to the point, what did the 07 squad have coming into the season that they really could count on? Beckett was a question mark, Schilling was old, no one knew what to expect from Daisuke, Wake was the #4, and Tavarez.. well, nuff said -- we were lucky even to get what we got there. At least we have Lester, who we have some idea is going to come in and pitch his 200 innings with a mid 3 ERA. Ohlendorf isn't a bad gamble. If he's healthy, he's Bronson Arroyo. Not too bad. If not, you don't lose a lot.
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When you comedic geniuses are done, maybe we could actually talk about the acquisition
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Interesting buy low move. I can actually see this working out.
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If healthy, Youks is as effective as Ortiz statistically. Big Papi has being Big Papi in his favor. Youkilis is just a bald shouty white man, Big Papi is the guy who once hit 50 HR's.
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It's about reputation, not numbers, and the fact is that that impression does matter from a "protection" standpoint. Pitcher has to FEAR the batter he'll face next. if pitchers aren't scared of Youk, it doesn't matter if it actually turns out he murders them. Definitely see an argument where a pitcher would be much more terrified of David Ortiz.
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That was the best year we got out of Coco Crisp. He wasn't much with a bat in his hands, but in the field he made some plays that made your jaw drop. He bailed out our pitching staff time and again. The pitchers loved having him out there that year. Unfortunately for Coco, it was pretty much just that year, and he reverted to a more ordinarily solid defender going forward. Still one of the most undertold stories of that 07 campaign IMHO. A centerfielder rarely carries a team defensively, but Coco? That year? Absolutely did. The impact of his defense that year was just amazing from beginning to end. So many clutch runs prevented. No disrespect intended to Jacoby, but when it comes to actually playing his position defensively, he couldn't hold a candle to 2007 Coco. He should have won a gold glove, if that award was not a total popularity contest. 07 was also Tek's last really good year too. That makes a big difference.
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We had better pitching in 08 TBH. In 07 our rotation was Beckett, Schill, Daisuke, Wake, Tavarez, with cameos by Gabbard and Lester and one or two starts from Buchholz. Our bullpen was Paps and Oki, which was great until Oki fell apart in August, and then we had the Gagne disaster, Javier Lopez, Delcarmen, Kyle Snyder and Mike Timlin. Nowhere in there do I see "great pitching." It's pretty good mind, especially with Beckett being an absolute horse that year. That season though was all about the last truly great years of Manny and Papi in Red Sox uniforms.
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We got a career year out of Scutaro last year. Don't kid yourself that that's going to repeat. He had a good little run in the AL that we couldn't have expected. That's nice. To pretend that you can count on him to continue that is to be inexcusably naive. And above all, don't fool yourself about Scutaro's defense. Defensively he really wasn't ever that good, or he'd have been a starter a lot sooner in his career. Scoot and Theroit are pretty much the same guy defensively by any metric you care to use. Average overall, a bit above or below that in any given year, but easily less than 1 win a year from replacement either way. Scoot is incrementally better than Theriot across the board except in batting average but really, the differencers are inconsequential taken as a whole, you have to be seriously splitting hairs to even worry about anything other than the SLG.
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Scoot has a bit more power than Theriot. That's really the only difference. As for why he's still out there, Theriot is exactly the kind of guy that goes late in the offseason when teams are looking for finishing touches or plugging holes at the last minute. He'll find a job in the big leagues before the end of the offseason, believe you me.
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Actually Theriot has a lot in common with Scutaro to be perfectly honest. I could definitely see the team expressing some interest in him. He's an average defender -- sometimes a little above, sometimes a little below, just like Scutaro -- with the same focus on plate discipline offensively and pretty similar career numbers. Not saying it's a slam dunk that the team is definitely going after Theriot but I can see the logic in bringing up the possibility. He's not nearly as bad as all that.
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Just imagine if we'd signed Teixeira. All that would have happened is we'd have found out about all this 2 years earlier. It was always a stretch to just assume that Youk was good for a full season at third. He had never started there fulltime and had had years of nearly full-time first base to fill out and settle into the less athletic position. I said that back when, and was called an idiot. Nevermind that you're moving a player 30_ years old over to a position he'd never played at fulltime in the majors. Of course Youk could play third, and it would be a heck of an infield. And the reason I got back why it was going to work? Because Youks had played fulltime at third in the minors. You know who else did that? Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera and Billy Butler. You'd never move any of those men back either. Sorry to vent, but this is something I took a lot of crap for over multiple years, I feel entitled to one good vent over it.
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Did you see how far apart Ortiz and the RSFO are?
Dojji replied to ibot2much's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
A year, or more. Worst case scenario he's a pretty danged good bench player. He's not a starter unless that bat comes along, or unless we're desperate enough financially to start scrimping at a few positions. I imagine he's more valuable to the middle of the road NL squads than he is here, because he fits better into how those teams like to do business. -
Did you see how far apart Ortiz and the RSFO are?
Dojji replied to ibot2much's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
That would work on the Royals. Not on the Red Sox. If you're going to play SS here you have to provide something -- even if only a little -- with the stuck. Even Alex Gonzalez was able to contribute some sporadic power, and even Nick Green was surprisingly adept at getting himself on base until near the end of his tenure here. That's non-optional. -
Never bank the future of a position on one prospect. If Bogaerts wants to be a 3B and Middlebrooks wants to be a 3B, you let them both be 3B and pray one of them makes it. It's not like you can't kick one of them to the outfield a la Alex Gordon/Casey Blake if you really need to -- especially because IIRC Bogaerts and Middlebrooks are both on the athletic side of 3B (as in, not Mike Lowell)
