Vinny

HaHa I can't believe you guys still stand by your Drew and Lugo signings. Just admit it they both suck ass. We tried to warn you, but we were only trolling I know you and your GM love to punch up numbers in a laptop. How about punching up 5 years $70 Million

What did you say?

Oh yeah my spelling sucks. I knew it didn't look right.

Well I did happen to catch a little bit of the Yankee game today and they didn't look that impressive. That should be good news for you guys.

Hell must have frozen over. Yankees and Red Sox fans as friends. :wtf: I thought you guys hated each other.

From the highlights I saw, it seems that the Red Sox pitchers also pitched well. They both have very good pitching staffs, so I'm not surprised that they both pitched well.

Well us Dodger fans believe that there are more to just putting up numbers that define if you've been playing well or not. Being a leader, showing by example, playing 100% all the time, staying healthy, being clutch (especially in the playoffs), are all very important to us. It might have been to much to ask for, but he was being payed quite well for it.

I don't see how:

Well I'm here to talk baseball and I missed the game today. I was wondering how the Dodgers did from an opponents point of view.

I don't think any Dodger fans miss Julio Lugo or JD Drew. Neither of them played particularly well for the Dodgers. Most Dodger fans were jumping for joy when Drew opted out.

Granted it still is ST, but I don't understand all the hostility towards Dodger fans wanting to speak baseball. Both our teams just played each other and I am sure both our teams fanatics are starving for baseball.

I don't know what's funnier; somebody arguing that the Angels are a better team than the Dodgers, or that the Red Sox have a rich baseball history.

No, I'm basically saying it takes time to adjust to changing leagues. He's saying that theres proof that the AL is harder and he has a list of players to prove it. I just pointed out why his conclusions are false and that he has no proof. To prove his point he just needs to have a list of players that were given time to adjust to the other league and were not injured. I mean look at the list and the comments I added while looking at their career stats. They're not excuses or being skewed by any stretch of the imagination.

Excuses??... How about reasons. Names and numbers to back them up? All I see is names I don't see any numbers to back them up. Proven facts?? You call those proven facts? O.K. And it was actually pretty easy to debunk your false conclusions. All I had to do was look at their career stats. It's always been the consensus that it takes ball players time to adjust when switching from one league to the other. But of course you think that's an excuse. As for me taking the time to debunk your false conclusions. It took much less time for me to look at stats and use a little critical thinking, then it did for you to come up with that idiotic list.

It was a joke. I thought forsure you would get it. Credibility lost?? Reread what I wrote about the other players on the list. I also find it funny that a Red Sox fan doesn't believe in curses.

And I agree.

Wow now that's a long list that must have took alot of time. Now let me help you thin that list out. Randy Johnson - Age Jaret Wright - One fluke season in 2004. 2003 in the NL he still sucked. Carl Pavano - Only 1 year in AL didn't adjust Jeff Suppan - Never was a good pitcher, in AL or NL. Sammy Sosa - Age/steroids Chan Ho Park - Curse of the Dodgers. Still sucks eventhough he's back in NL. Tony Clark - Fluke year in '05 he's back to sucking again. Javier Vazquez - Didn't adjust in '04. Then traded back to NL where he sucked in '05. John Burkett - He lost it before he went to the AL Edgar Renterria - Only one year in AL no time to adjust. Bob Wickman - In only 26 innings. Don't forget his Cleveland years (45 saves 2005) Javy Lopez - Other than '03 his best year was in '04 Baltimore. Bronson Arroyo - Dumb trade by you guys. Was good in Boston. BK Kim - WS messed him up. Denny Neagle - Pitched in 16 games in AL 2000. Yeah that's fair assesment. AJ Burnett - Only 21 games in AL. Not enough games. Josh Beckett - First year in AL Roger Clemens - Dominated for how many years in AL?? Reggie Sanders - Age/still hasn't adjusted (only 1 year) John Lieber - Only 1 year in AL after not pitching year before. (Not surprised) Woody Williams - Sucks in both leagues. Stop looking at W/L records in ST. Louis (Suppan) Brett Tomko - Sucks in both leagues. Richie Sexson - His Seattle numbers look pretty good. Adrian Beltre - Always was inconsistent other than '04/steroids. Eddie Guardado - 14 innings pitched in NL. David Eckstein - He was pretty good with the Angels to. Tony Womack - Only one year in AL. Damn you guys are impatient. Greg Vaughn - Took a year and a half to adjust to NL pitching. Back then Mil was AL. Vinny Castilla - It's called Colorado. And he was injured when he was in the AL. Steve Traschel - Only 1 year in AL, split between 2 teams. Francisco Cordero - Wow 49 saves in '04/ 37 saves in '05 with Texas. Can you let them get healthy? Esteban Loaiza - You do remember he won a Cy Young in the AL?? Now that thins out your list alot. All it shows me is that the AL signs every player with one good year and then get's rid of them if they don't produce in that first year. Not very smart at all. Takes time to adjust for most players. And of course the numbers are gonna be a little inflated in the AL due to the DH.

If they were gonna include a 2-1 '04 record a '02 sweep at Dodger Stadium has to be included.

Wow give a team a ring after 70 some years and they think they're elite.