bagwell368

I hope Schilling leaves - because of actuarial reasons I hope Wake comes back for 1 more year but that his catcher is jettisoned I hope the Yanks sign Lowell to a ridiculous contract - his stats will suffer badly in NY I hope AROD signs with the Cubs and we make a deal for Aramis - or Youk goes to 3B and we sign or trade for a big booper 1B (not Helton) I hope the trade floated on EEI comes to fruition: Bucholtz, Lester and Coco for Santana We need a twice a week catcher, who'll be full time next year. Hitting not a priority. If we do sign AROD I hope it is for 8 or less years W

Look, Abe was up for a few starts two years ago, right? All you hear about is Lester, Papelbon, even our current 5th SP. If AA was so great, wouldn't we hear some more about him? Don't tell me the Red Sox are so brilliant they are hiding this guy under the radar? Also, he doesn't show up on any top 50 lists. From what i saw of him he looked to be a 95 ERA+ candidate - after he got his brains beat in for 250 innings first. That comes out to be a 4.90 ERA with about a 12-11 record. Workmanlike, but hardly exciting. Besides, we all know what happens to #5 SP's in the playoffs - long relief. AA is untried in that role, but Mr. Arroyo is not FYI. How's that for non hostile? W

EEI Hate: Smerlas when he talks baseball Morning guys when they talk politics (which is dreadfully uninformed knee jerk right wing crap) Ordways ego/mouth, 15 times the size of his gut. EEI Like: Breaking stories, access to top notch guests, several weekend guys Off topic: Not happy since Sean left/was pushed; Remy is OK, good for newbies W

Wait... somebody here says he saw Foxx play for the Sox? There are not too many of those. Walt

who said $20 mil for 1/2 a season? i like 350,000 a start, 150,000 for every quality start, double those numbers in the playoffs, and only require his presence on game day. if they go to maximum game in every series and win the WS in 7, he could easily blow past 20 million. If he falls apart and its over he might only cost 2-3 million. His vanity should induce him to sign such a contract. If he wins a ring with the sox, and he does well or very well who then says he's not the best ever, some guy in a cave that thinks 511 wins (over 100 from 50' from batter) playing soft toss is in any way better? W

the games/production are good, but jeez 28 miles away from boston and EEI is nearly useless in terms of reception. could be like BCN and the Pats. They want in. But the talk radio machine won't burp over this too much... w

Duqe was good and bad. He signed Damon a move he was criticized for the first two years of Damons career with the Sox. He fired excellent minor league people because they took credit for their own work. He let the draft and minors go down the drain His high handed behavior scared off a few people for sure. As for Clemens, he is by FAR the greatest pitcher of all time in terms of career value. Disagree?? Consider the micro sized strike zone, pencil thin bat handles, rules against piching inside, DH, 'roid beasts, guys trying to hit 40 HR for a big contract, not .335. he has spent his entire career facing. If he could be brought back to 1962 Houston, his ERA would have been .7 or so lower career wise. Starting in 1895, his career ERA would be about .63. Perhaps a handful of guys like Gibson (big mound, beanball/brushback king, huge strike zones) might be better in the post season. But with Clemens, you get into the post season more often then Gibson, don't you, since he's pitched about what 1200 more innings. W

Red I was wondering who you have seen better then Pedro (at least peak value - usually defined as top 3 seasons any order and 5 best in a row)? I saw Koufax twice, and then everybody since. Carlton and Gibson and Guidry all had killer years and fine careers, but not of them touch Pedro under analysis. So, not to be a wise guy, but to hear who was better and why you think so. W

I don't care for his act. I want him out. However, the man knows (knew) how to pitch. His control and his pitching in the clutch, and his carrer numbers will despite the groans earn him a place in the HOF someday. He also owned the Sox for some period of years. Mr. Wells - that way to the bar, and get fatter and older, and maybe punched out for being a jerk. I don't care anymore, but I will not forget you could do. But if its all the same to you, I would like it if you kept your mouth zipped in my memories. W

favorite - Jerry Adair best - Yaz '67, Rice '78, Gordon '95?, Petey '99, Ortiz '05 w

Sorry folks, haven't the time to read the whole thread. However, I have spent a lot of time watching both (Pedro and Roger), and researching both. Using saber metric values such as ERA+, DERA, and the like, Pedro is easily and far away the greatest pitcher of all time (through his career so far) per inning. ERA+ is probably the easiest metric to understand that sheds light. Pedro is a 166 - so you ask? Well ERA+ is all the guys in a given league in a given year, with park corrections biased to 100, IE the average guy would get a 100. Pedro is has a 166. His next closest rival w/ over 1500 innings is Grove who has a 148. Roger is about a 143 or 142 (putting him around 9th or so lifetime). Pedro's ERA+ will fall, perhaps under 160 before he is done. Roger is about done now - just 350 to shoot for if he wants. The argument for Roger is he has many more innings then Petey. A ratio of about 1.7 to 1. So do you want many more innings at a somewhat lower value, or less innings at more? I have to take Roger's career, but for one game or one season, Petey is the guy. If you like Koufax you like Pedro, if you like Cy, WJ, and Warren, then you lean towards Roger. I know that nobody has or likely will touch Petey's double in '99 and '00. If you look up the ERA+ values you see a guy named Keefe from the 1880's has a better season then Petey's. But that was with contact hitters and he was 50' away, hardly the same game. All I know is the Sox had both of them, and I saw them pitch many times, that's pretty damn good for the Sox and for me. W

last year his stats were crappy into what June? Look at the numbers for the year, besides a slip in BA, its hard to see that as anything but a real good year. I expect this to be his last really fine year. After that I expect 2 years at .280 .375 .545, pretty good, but not historic. I've been watching since '66 and he is the best hitter the Sox have had in that time career wise IMO. He does not have a Yaz '67 type year (including fielding and leadership) its true, but, go check the OPS+ or other saber type stats, Manny is way up there. He'll be over 150 this year as well. w

If Epstein knew he had 2 OF in the system that could likely do the job, and that he would get Choi so cheap, he probably would not do the deal. But he didn't know, so we'll see. W

greenwell39, interesting. my wife got her Masters after this thing with our son, and is wrapping up her 3rd year teaching 3rd grade. She's widely seen as being unusually able to handle difficult children so they give her 5-6 a year that are not on meds. She gets services for about 1/2 and the others she helps along to meet grade level by the end of the year. the problem is usually parents asleep at the wheel in that case. next year she is expecting 7-8 at risk children. It's the most important job in society IMO, if men were 90% of the teacher population, the pay would be a lot more. Strange society when men playing baseball or other pro sports can make north of 10 mil a year, and wickedly talented and dedicated teacers are under 50k. W

THere is nothing quite so pitiful in all of baseball as a power hitter in a slump/fooled. OTOH, there is nothing quite as glorious as a power hitter on a roll. During this very season he will both be vilified as an oaf, and wildly cheered as a one man wrecking crew. Just about every adult baseball fan in the US besides Red Sox fans realize that the sun rises and the sun sets, and its time to have a sandwhich, and see what today brings. Have patience. w