TheRivernator

cleveland is stuck either way. Throw their ace another inning when he is clearly tiring? Or trust Graves or Davis?

wakey wakey is done...

Sheffield Ties It!!!! 2-2

Pb#4!!!!

NOT!!!!

another PB on tap?

passed ball? lolol

bard is terrible

If you play CF, you get a much truer read on the ball, but the problem is, you need to cover a ton of ground. What you will save in slice you will lose in range....

there's another PB. Bard is horrible behind the plate, that was awful and great all in one....

let's just put it this way. You are a rather articulate poster on this board and people may consider what you say as fact when it is actually speculation and likely untrue...

Do you know how many doctors are wrong in their theories? If we go back to listening to what doctors feel is right vs evidence based medicine, then we'll be back to the stone age. How many doctors used to remove tonsils at the first sign of infection? It now takes many before a doc removes them. How about Hormone therapy? There are thousands of examples where doctors have been very wrong. That is why medicine is being shaped by research instead of personal opinion. You can site 2,000 doctors, I still won't believe it until I see the study that proves it works.....

anecdotal, holistic evidence? I could poke holes in that all day long. Fact is, holistics like to claim things work on testimonials alone. What they fail to address is placebo effect (which is monstrous) and the tons of other people for whom the regimen failed. In order for HGH to be proven to assist eyesight, there needs to be a study where you create 2 groups randomly. These groups are then given a drug, group A gets sugar pill, group B gets HGH. Then they would need to get serial eye exams to assess how much better their eyesight got. Then the result would have to stand up to p values and a 95% confidence interval. Fact is, no study HAS BEEN PUBLISHED to support your claim. What most non-medically savvy people do not understand is the amount of failed studies never make it to the market. Hence, holistics is created. Holistic therapies in and of themselves are not regulated by the FDA, so they could sell you salt water for all they care and they can get away with it. Also, many holistic remedies have already been shown to be ineffective or so mildly effective that they arent worth it for what they say they treat. Two problems, there is no money in publishing a report that states a product does not work, because for the most part, that kills the drug. If the drug is holistic, then they dont need the study, got it? I'll take this to the bank until a definitive study is released. If it is considered a "holistic treatment" and has been for awhile now, yet NOTHING is available claiming it is useful for said purpose, you can be sure that it has likely either been disproven or so minimally effective that it doesnt stand up to the confidence interval for said indication...

I am 100% not an apologist. I am in the medical field and I do not want someone to spread medical lies under false pretenses. Giambi cheated, period. He was one of my favorite players, he is no more. Nothing will change that and he will be stained in my mind forever. That being said, people are getting inflated ideas about these drugs that thee cheaters took. Say it for what it is, no need for embellishment, their stain they put on the game wont get any bigger if you embellish...

I looked in on it. Here is the deal. Check out this sight... http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3178.htm membership is free. This is what scientific studies have shown occur with the use of HGH. I wont buy anything else but scientific evidence that it occurs. That means trials, studies with no biases randomized, controlled etc. I searched through an extensive list of studies using Ovid and came up with nothing. Also, the crap that you were googling was all drug company stuff and you can never trust their sites. They were all holistic sites to boot, which is mostly ******** anyway. I have yet to see a randomized trail that showed me that eyesight is improved on HGH. Also of note, HGH has been proven to alter body shape and contour people's bodies, but it actually has no bearing on strength. Although concomitant use of testosterone will cause isotonic strength increases and that is what Giambi did. HGH is not the culprit on its own, and if you choose to believe the eyesight thing, well, the evidence hasnt been presented and it is basically a bunch of single cases that suddenly worked, ie ********....

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease this is on the bottom ogf all these holistic shitbags. A lot of holistics is ********....

I did, and it is total f***ing garbage. There is ZERO scientific evidence that HGH improves eyesight, none. If you will take anything that google has to offer you as fact, then you'll be in trouble...

Jeff Weaver and Jeff Suppan come to mind for now. A few will be added to the list shortly...

that is the biggest crock of crap I have ever seen. Improved eyesight? Better brain function? Tell that to a guy with acromegaly, and if you want to sound medical, look that up. Don't spread crap around here....

if he submits to a blood test, the union may expell him...

The pituitary controls the production of steroids in the body to a degree. It also contains HGH and many other hormones. Thowing off one can cause disasterous results if unregulated....

wow 133 pitches in april. This is stupid...

looks like the sox may be going for awhile

no he wasnt, but he was a doubles hitter and was dangerous because of his penchant for 40+ doubles....

curt is likely in his last inning