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  1. Should have said that to Pruney when I answered his post. LIRIANO DOES SUCK AND HE ADDS VERY LITTLE TO OUR ROTATION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW EXCEPT TO MAKE IT STINK MORE.
  2. Prune Face, I AM already on the Grassy Knoll, but guess what? I for got my ammunition. How about you and BSN bring me some. I can't leave here or I'll blow my cover. All BS aside, I think getting a No. 3 or a No 3-4 type is the best we are going to get for Cespedes unless he is part of a bigger trade for a top notch No. 1 type like Hamels. Even then I think the Phillies would want someone either better than Cespedes and or someone with longer contract obligations to the Phillies. Get Porcello or Kennedy and take our chances.
  3. iortiz, I hate to give you some bad news but it isn't going to be as easy as you think to peddle Cespedes to anybody. He has only one year left on his contract, will no doubt go FA after 2015, is not the best fielder in Christendom, has a miserably low OBA and has been catalogued as a problem in the clubhouse. If we can get a decent No. 3 for him we need to do it or we'll be stuck with him in 2015 in a crowded outfield which will lead to dissension and dissatisfaction on the bench and clubhouse. I saw that our here in California with the Dodgers problems with too many outfielder for too few positions----and we have more than they did. And don't buy into this nonsense about having a large surplus is a good problem to have. It is not. It is a recipe for a fractured team. Having said that, good to see you back posting here. I missed you.
  4. I was that fly on the wall IO.
  5. Right on both counts amigo. It will come down to money and Henry did NOT bring an open checkbook, and Lester thought it was a total waste of his time. Actually, you were right on three counts. Sorry for the omission at the beginning.
  6. I know of one poster on this board who would be first in line to praise the hell out of the front office to doing just that......or anything else they would do. Want to venture a guess?
  7. The risk there Spud is that in the last few years teams have been signing extensions with their better pitchers and if that takes place this year we could be in deep s***. We have to strike while the iron is hot and the pitchers are out there and available, otherwise we get some of those low risk high reward types that usually turn out to be chips....buffalo ones.
  8. No mvp, he is just trying to get out from under the possibility that he would have to knock the front office.....so he is now backtracking like in a drunken stupor so he can carry the water and hew the wood for the powers-that-be. That's his reputation and he is just living up to it. You want more proof, just keep reading what he writes the next month or so.
  9. I'm keeping my powder dry for the time being Bellhorn, but honestly, have you ever a bigger bunch of worthless BS that what was dispensed by Kennedy with that broadside?
  10. RSNC84--please take my advice on this. If you are a cool person who doesn't go ballistic at Red Sox bunglings, keep your sanity and let the other madmen go on the tirades when this goes down......as I'm certain it will. I commend you for at least admitting you're not a ranter and a raver as I and some others are, and it is a refreshing change of pace from those who always say they will let the front office have it both barrels if they screw up and then when they do fall in line and try to meekly support what the FOU does like the gutless people they are. There are enough people here to carry on the fight, but I've decided to wait until the new year to see just what our team looks like before I get emotional. Who knows? The front office might actually come out of this smelling pretty good even if they blow it on Lester, which IMHO they have already done.
  11. Isn't Yaz's grandson someone high up in the Orioles organization who projects as a solid hitting prospect? I received from a friend on another board a picture of Yaz and his protégé a year or so ago. It is possible that who the O's have in mind for Markakis's successor, though that is just an educated guess on my part.
  12. Spud, I think the Red Sox have to get pro-active by the beginning of next week. It appears that Lester is gone and we should get in on the ground floor in the Hamels, Shields, Samrardjiza and Cashner possibilities. If the Red Sox want to win the AL East next season, and that is a possibility given the eveness of the division, we all know that we need two solid pitchers who could fit into the No. 1 and 2 slots. If Jon still is deciding by the end of next week I think we need to move on. Besides, some of the money I'm now hearing that he may command is a little out of sorts from my vantage point----sorry to say since I wanted Lester back very badly but knew it might be a pipe dream.
  13. :)That's a good laugh Ted but I think what Palodios might be doing is giving the Red Sox front office some ammo for an excuse. Truth be told, when it does get into that high in years and money some prudence is called for. As much as I wanted Lester back and still do, when we are talking between $150-160 million dollars and six or seven years, when does sanity and good sense take over. For my part I have always believed Jon was leaving and our only hope was a comfort zone in Boston that would make him want to come back. Perhaps he will be the exception to the rule that it is always about the money and pull what Jared Weaver did a few years ago for the Angels and told agent Scott Boras that Anaheim was comfort for him and didn't want to pitch anywhere else. I wonder if Jon will do that for us?
  14. Sale???? Would the White Sox even consider that? They have made it clear that they are not rebuilding and therefore it doesn't seem reasonable they would deal their ace lefthander. My rotation is not so different from yours. I would go for Hamels of the Phillies. First of all, Pat Gillick, who built the 2008 WS Champions and the 2009 NL titlists, is back and he will put some fire under the feel of stumble bum GM Ruben Amaro Jr. Hamels in a trade, FA James Shields, trade for Porcello and with Kelly and Buchholz we could win the AL East next year. We have both the means in talent and money to make two trades and sign one solid free agent pitcher in my opinion.
  15. I feel your pain my friend. Feel mine....I live in the Los Angeles area and can't stand the Dodgers in body, shape and form. They are the Yankees of the West and will do all they can to buy a WS Title. Even though I have never believed Lester was coming back to Boston I still held out hope I could be wrong. With the Dodgers now seemingly involved, if the tell tale turns out to be money first, well, Lester is not going to be with us.
  16. Porcello could be a decent No. 3 for us so I would made that deal and hope Kelly and Buchholz can at least pitcher better than 500 ball for us next season. Personally, though, I do not want to trade Swihart. The guy in my opinion is a stud, a good athlete who has become a top notch catcher, can hit and hit with power and can play another position if necessary. Still, it depends what pitchers are available. For my part, a trade for Hamels, sign Shields and along with Porcello, Kelly and Buchholz, we could possibly do well enough to win the division and advance to the playoffs. That's not a killer rotation but I'd settle for it.
  17. Deal DOJII. I will chill out for the rest of this year. How's that? On January 1st, if we haven't gotten those two damn quality pitchers we need, then I will weigh in again. And my previous promise holds. If we get to the WS in 2015 you will see a totally different guy on this board. Satisfied?????
  18. ALDS?????? Absolutely not!!!! That's no title at all. Now if we make it through the ALCS and make it to the World Series I promise I will do my best to become a Pollyanna, as hard as that might be for me. That's a promise. Now what if they don't? What will you do if Ramirez turns out to be the cancer I think he will become, or if Bogaerts has another crappy year, or if we don't get those two ace pitchers we need? I'd ask the same for your pal User but thank God I have him on ignore.....and if the team folds as it did this season he will disappear as he did in 2012 and 2014.
  19. Well Dojii, I was playing a little game of miniature Russian Roulette. Longoria is not coming here but it would be great if he could. We'll get by with Panda; it is Ramirez who concerns me. Today in the LA Times, columnist Bill Plaschke called the guy out, calling him a malingerer and intimated that the Dodgers couldn't rid themselves of him fast enough. I think his signing has disrupted our lineup for the coming year and has weakened our defense, not to mention that the guy is a virus in the clubhouse who loafs and becomes a total ass when things start to go wrong. I really believe this was a choke and panic move by Cherington. We didn't need to do this.
  20. And now we hear there is a mystery team in on the Lester sweepstakes. Mystery my ass. It's your money grubbing outfit.
  21. For one year left field and then move Panda to first when the Red Sox led Napoli go and move him back to third........and find a way to undo that miserable signing of Hanley Ramirez. I insist this guy is a bad actor and a virus to any team. There are two guys in our lineup I cannot abide---Hanley because of his attitude and Bogaerts because of his lack of range, poor footwork on the defensive end and his utter ineptness hitting with men on base.
  22. If it takes a trade of Bogaerts to get us a solid No. 1 pitcher, assuming as I do that Lester is as good as gone, I would trade him without hesitation. What people forget that he isn't good defensively either at short or at third.....we saw that this season, and I have deep reservations as to whether he will ever learn to hit the slider on the outside. Another bad year from him and he will be in the Middlebrooks and Bradley category, that is, very little trade value. With two solid starters added to the team we could compete but I think you all know that I don't think all that much of Bogaerts and believe that signing Hanley was just a dumb, stupid and panic driven move.
  23. I think the Red Sox thought that Lester meant peanuts when he said he would give the team a home discount-----he didn't mean that miserable offer they tended him.
  24. Well said Ex----but I have said all along I don't think he is coming back to Boston and my main point is that we should be now deeply in the hunt for Hamels and a trade with the Phillies. We need an ace and a solid No. 2 starter to compete next season. What we have now, and with some of those o thers mentioned like Santana, McCarthy, Masterson, Liriano, they will not get us to the top because they are not ace type pitchers.
  25. Let's hope your the one whose right on this and me wrong. I still Lester is going to tell Henry to screw off but I would be elated if it weren't so. I just hope all the good pitchers aren't gone before Cherington decides to get with it. Last place is a bummer and we've done that two out of the last three years and to me that is more than enough. A few first place finishes in a row would be very welcome and we need top quality pitching to get that done. BSN says things are moving slow because of Scherzer and his agent Boras but there's a way around that with a silid offer in money and years. You say the Sox offered six years and that is a credible offer. For that and another ten million to pass the Cubs might get it done. If Lester still holds out we ought to all know by then that he has no intention of coming back to Boston. That miserable low ball offer last spring might be the worst move of them all this past year.
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