schillingouttheks

lol it's hilarious.

Or you just replace Lester with Santana....you forgot about Buchholz. Santana Beckett Matsuzaka Schilling Wakefield/Buchholz

1) I agree on all accounts except for where you say they can't contend. They have a good rotation where Garza is being replaced by the returning Francisco Liriano. If they add a little bit of pop to the order (like they have with Delmon Young), they can cause problems for some teams. 2) I agree that they probably want to get a deal like this done when they have a bit more privacy, but the Twins don't have to give Santana up. They can still get something for him at the trading deadline if they're not satisfied with what they're seeing now. It's certain that a contending team will inquire about him at the deadline - and even then, maybe the Twins WILL be contending. If that other team that comes to the Twins is serious about winning it all in '08, then they may just pony up the prospects for the banner that they want. As far as the picks go, though, won't they get 2 picks if another team signs him anyway, since he's obviously going to be a type-A free agent? 3) Yes, they've put together a nice package. But we're talking about the best pitcher on the planet right now, and if the Twins are even slightly hesitating at what they might receive, then I don't blame them for balking. Whenever you trade for top-quality prospects, you're trading for question marks with high ceilings. The question isn't whether or not they're going to get a good prospect, but how much faith they have in whether or not the prospect will find success. As far as those deals you mentioned go - at the time, those pitchers weren't the best on the planet. Damn good, but not as good as Santana. We're talking about a proven, year-in and year-out, dominant starter that is in the Cy Young race every year. His credentials at this point are a bit more impressive than those of the other two at the time of their deals to the Sox. 4) This is where I don't agree with you as much. The Red Sox do not have a desperate need for Santana. Sure, he'd be AMAZING to have, but the Red Sox are ALREADY arguably the best team in baseball. They're the defending world champs, and basically the same team. Santana to the Red Sox is just gravy - a damn lot of it, but the Sox do not need him as much as some people make it out to be. I do not trade Lester and Ellsbury for him in the same package.

No way.

Hmm....

I disagree that it would affect anything if Santana became the #1 for two reasons: 1) Johan Santana is pretty much the best pitcher on earth right now 2) I don't believe in chemistry, let alone that it would have a large enough effect to affect on-field performance It's interesting to think about. Who would be the opening day starter? I gotta say it would be Beckett with Santana following the next day. The truth is though, with this rotation, you can't assign 1's, 2's or 3's. They're all just damn good pitchers.

It's official. Wow, big trade. The Tigers are really making a splash this off-season.

I'll take my 6 starters that make up a tank rotation and the s***** insurance over your so-so, inexperienced, young rotation and f***ing insurance.

Agreed, See Red. I think at the very least it was "inconclusive," and from the looks of it he was shifting his hands on the ball but the ball wasn't moving. It depends on how you define "possession," I guess. Despite that, Brady would have been given 4 tries to score from 2 yards out after Scott committed those idiotic penalties. They had just run that play that Gaffney got the TD on from the 8, and the two unsportsmanlikes would have been half the distance to the goal each, with auto first downs. So, the ball would have gone from the 8 to the 4, and then the 4 to the 2 with a clean slate of downs. I have a feeling the Pats find a way into the end zone anyway. Look, I understand that the calls weren't exactly consistent, but when it comes to it, the refs aren't the guys who threw a key INT directly to James Sanders in the 4th, nor are they the guys that on their final 3 possessions in the 4th quarter, went 3 and out. If the Ravens just got one first down on one of those final 3 drives, they win the game. Neither team played well enough to win...the Pats were just the team that had more points. Let me put it this way - it was an exciting game because both teams played pretty s***** (except for Willis McGahee and for the most part, the Ravens' D - there were just a ton of mental errors).

We played Everett and I couldn't believe the size of their D-line. They're as big as their secondary but they're just too fast and strong. My team played against them and did pretty well (we had a 9-play goal-line stand, lol - 10 offense plays then 10 defense plays). I wish the ISL and MIAA played each other more. I'm starting to think that the ISL has better overall teams because they can bring in players. The sizes of the kids are much bigger too.

lol, that was so funny when Billick blew kisses at Rodney.

I can tell you this much, the Steelers will try to pound the ball down the Pats throats with their o-line and Willie Parker. The Pats better figure out how to defend the run because they were embarrassed by McGahee tonight.

No, I understand you hate the Pats and it's your right to. I don't want to make you absolutely explode on my face but you know as well as I do that I'm not one of those "Pats fans" that you seem to hate. You just get really bitter when they win, though. Fair enough if you hate them I guess. Look, I'm conceding it...they had no business winning that game whatsoever. They didn't play well enough to win, they were more the beneficiaries of the Ravens self-imploding. I'll tell you this much, it's not a win that Pats fans should be thrilled or happy with.

Which calls were so unfounded? I admit, they had no business winning the game, but the Ravens were incredibly stupid with how many penalties they committed.

OH MY GOD. I CAN'T BELIEVE HE CAUGHT THAT BALL. But, game over. Whew.

lol @ where the Pats are kicking off from. BTW, he threw the flag into the stands? That's hilarious.

It was really, really close. I don't think the review confirmed it at all, but at the very least I think they didn't have enough evidence. I mean, the ball didn't move but his hands did, so it's a question of what you define "possession." Anyway, the Pats had no business winning this game. If Baltimore doesn't call time out, and Stephen Neal doesn't false start, we lose. Still 44 seconds for something crazy to happen though.

TOUCHDOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNN PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL AGAIN OMG.

LOL @ Baltimore. HOLY f*** this is some crazy s***.

OH MY GOD RODNEY HARRISON THAT WAS HUGE.