bobby jr

Three names, most likely to be the unknown Yankee who was the subject of rumors: (not to say any of these guys are on steroids, but among the Yankees they are the ones who have been mentioned more than other Yankees) A-Rod Jeter Mo Rivera

The White sox have got to step up right now and beat the Damn Yankees. I mean right now, and tomorrow too.

Mussina never is at his best in really big, clutch games. He's never won a WS ring, and I doubt that he ever will. Somehow he manages to jinx his team.

The WHite Sox seemed to have nothing tonight, getting shut down by an over the hill Mussina, and they had better start showing up. Go Red Sox!

I'm not completly buying the story that no MLB superstars have tested positive after Raffy Palmeiro. MLB could have swept the positive results of superstars under the rug. Can MLB be depended upon to police themselves, considering the history of looking the other way on the steroid issue? Perhaps they decided MLB could not withstand another revelation bigger than Raffy. So under this scenerio, a way was found to find grounds to let the players "win" their appeals, and this would explain all the rumors too. The names could be forthcoming next week or next month. Look how long the Raffy appeals took. Bottom line, this type of discussion is healthy. I look back with sadness upon the days of naive fans applauding McGwire's breaking the HR record, of Giambi hitting two monsterous HR's off Pedro Martinez in game seven of the ALCS to get the Yankees into the 2003 World Series (Giambi was juiced), of Barry Bonds making every pitcher look like a slow pitch softball pitcher (Bonds was juiced). No more naivity. Let the free discussions on who may be on steroids continue until there is a foolproof, trustworthy method that guarantees that none of these guys are. And that means a testing regime, imposed by Congress, which includes at least one random blood test per year.

I'm glad that Johnny D is apparently in the clear, he is one of my favorite Red Sox players..

I read a rumor on another board that the names will come out tomorrow, Friday. But who knows?

Yeah Sheffield is not exactly Mr. October is he. He never impressed me as having much class.

Yeah I'd hate to see Schilling be the one, and I doubt that it is him. I still don't like Clemens althought I do have to give him credit for "retiring" from the Yankees then going elsewhere and pitching some of his best ball ever!

So what if I post similar messages on two boards. And the McCarthy reference only reflects shame upon youself, although you seem unaware of it. I believe that this poster should be banned from the board. He contributes nothing, but instead pulls the board down.

If nothing else comes out here is another possiblity. Kay's report of two hall of famers testing positive was correct. However they WON their appeals and the case was dropped. They could have won their appeals for a number of reasons, chief among them MLB's conflict in interest. MLB presumably doesn't want to expose their biggest stars as cheaters and steroid junkies. This is why Congress, in my opinion, should take the steroid testing out of the hands of MLB and the NFL, and impose strict, outside testing.

This posted on the Yankee board! http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?p=2607870#post2607870 so take this for what it's worth, but the RUMOR going around is that the ESPN studios were buzzing today with the news that Roger Clemens has tested positive for steroids, and the news will break soon AGAIN, this is only a rumor from someone's friend who supposedly works at ESPN ferris bueller anyone....anyone??

A-Rod, Jeter, Clemens, Mo Rivera, or Andru Jones.

Now that's a classy thing to say.

It would break the heart of Boston fans if it were Damon, but the reporter Kay who made the "break your heart" comment was a New York Yankee man all the way. So that makes me think it was a Yankee, and the break your heart list would include ARod Jeter and Mo.

I believe that earlier in the year Torre was only using Rivera in save situations in the 9th, not letting him pitch the 8th and 9th. At his age that seemed wise. Now he suddenly goes back to letting Mo pitch two innings and even in non save situations with the game tied? I'm wondering if maybe Steinbrenner has something to do with this. Maybe after another reliever was lit up George made a phone call to Joe and "suggested" that Rivera be used more down the stretch with the playoffs at stake.

Wow, the Yankees blew this one and Rivera too. His ERA has gone from 1.00 to 1.41 in about a week. I think Torre might be overworking him.

There is only one Oriole who has ever been proven to have taken steroids, Palmeiro. The rest of this is highly speculative at best. Bonnila Sosa Belle also played most of their careers with other teams. Two Yankees have confessed to having taken steroids, Giambi and Sheffield. That's 100% more than the Orioles. If any team has a "steroid connection" it is the Yankees and the San francisco giants.

No I don't believe it's Damon. His power numbers were down the last time I looked, this would not indicate involvement with steroids in 2005.. Also he doesn't fit the "future hall of famer" or "certain hall of famer" description that was previously given. Clemens is more likely than Damon.

I think A-Rod, Clemens, or Mo Rivera are definite possiblities. So is Andru Jones of the Braves. Outside chances: Randy Johnson and Pujols.

The Yankees starting pitching is extremely shaky. Mussina is nowhere near the pitcher he used to be, neither is Randy Johnson. And even Rivera is starting to show he is vulnerable at just the wrong time of the year.

Cashman will likely be fired by Steinbrenner if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Someone will have to be the fall guy.

Tejada still has a high BA when Giambi went off steroids everything went down his BA, HR's and RBI's. Also it is rather hypocritical that you believe Giambi's extreme peaks and valleys in performance in 2005 have nothing to do with steroids yet you are ready to convict Tejada based upon such flimsy evidence. Remember Giambi is known to have cheated and lied before, there is no such proof about Tejada or any other Oriole (except Raffy)

Wrong yet again, Bechler took non-prescription stuff to help him lose weight, that has nothing to do with steroids. And the Orioles had nothing to do with his choice to take what he did, that was his decision. Giambi cheated before and admitted to it before the grand jury. Then he went out and lied to the public after his testimony and said he never took steroids, until his grand jury testimony was leaked. He has a pattern of cheating on steroids , and dishonesty, and I do not trust him to stay off the juice. Also he is not tested for steroids any more than any other player in MLB who has not been caught, only after one is caught are they tested more. Giambi's leaked Grand Jury testimony does not count as an offense under MLB's collective bargaining agreement.

I would disagree that O's fans are boring and stupid. Yes they are peaceful Camden Yards is too quiiet at times. But there would be a mixed bag of cheers and boos wherever this occurred. O's fans have been supporting Raffy and hoping for the best for him for years. It is hard to switch gears on an emotional level. I would not have cheered but I would find it hard to boo an Oriole in Camden Yards either, althought I may have done so.