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    What’s this garbage i am watching man.

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    Get one more plz and end this misery.

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    That's a win, so be it. But aside from Pivetta, that was a poor effort by all else vs a AAAA team. Now thoroughly gassed in the BP going to NY. Probably doesn't mean much in the long run, but sweep'em if you can

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    The good guys win!!!!! That was excruciating lol.

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    Sweeping any team is not easy, so congrats to the SOX for the win. Yankem series is now a lot more serious than anyone would have thought a month ago.

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    Sweet win, although made harder than it should have been.

    In recent years, we lost most games like these.

    Keep it rolling!
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Sweet win, although made harder than it should have been.

    In recent years, we lost most games like these.

    Keep it rolling!
    Hey, MOON, are we being SOX teased again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Sweeping any team is not easy, so congrats to the SOX for the win. Yankem series is now a lot more serious than anyone would have thought a month ago.
    Exactly. Even the worst teams are going to win 1 out of 3 games over the course of the season.

    There’s a site called mlbsweeps.com. In data going back to 1961, only 27.04% of all 3 game series over that time frame have been sweeps. Heck, only 51% of 2 game sets are sweeps.

    Bottom line, sweeping a team, any team, ain’t easy.
    The Yankees could go 0-162 and it wouldn't be enough

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    And Yankees were just swept by the Reds. 2-8 in their last 10. We are either walking into a hornet nest that has been poked, or we having a marshmallow delight at Yankee stadium. Let's take 2 of 3 and move on to the A's for another shot at a sweep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Hey, MOON, are we being SOX teased again?
    Could very well be, but I’m enjoying this season, regardless!

    I was liking a lot of what I was seeing while we were fluttering around .500 for weeks and weeks. We have several exciting players and some surprises.

    We’ve had some let downs and key injuries, but to me, the good has outweighed the bad, especially the last few weeks.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Another hot prospect playing 2nd base for the Portland Sea Dogs is Kristian Campbell. On another 100 top prospect list he is rated at #89.
    he's been on fire. Eastern League Player of the Month. hope he keeps it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasbob View Post
    That's a win, so be it. But aside from Pivetta, that was a poor effort by all else vs a AAAA team. Now thoroughly gassed in the BP going to NY. Probably doesn't mean much in the long run, but sweep'em if you can

    This use of "a AAAA team" is such horsehockey. As I've reminded everyone, last weekend the Marlins played 4 games vs Philly, the team with the best W-L record in MLB, and won 2 of them. The Phillies have the best ERA in MLB, and the lowly Marlins averaged 4 runs per game against them.

    Tonight the bullpen absolutely destroyed a brilliant start by Pivetta--1 hit, 0 runs, 7 innings--by giving up the 2 tying runs in the 8th and then 3 more runs in extra innings. And let's not forget Jansen, our $16M closer who gave up a double and a single which went to CF and absolutely should have driven home the winning run except that Duran made a great play and throw to beat the Marlins runner.

    The upside is that the Sox did win--now 4 straight--and that all 3 Sox starters--Crawford, Bello, and Pivetta--pitched well.

    The bigger story is that one month ago, June 4, the Sox were 30-31 and headed nowhere. June 6-9 they split 4 games with the awful White Sox.

    But then they took 2/3 from the high-flying Phillies and another 2/3 from the AL East leading Yankees. If you weren't at least thinking of climbing on the bandwagon back then, you weren't paying attention. Then came a 3 game sweep @ Toronto, 2/3 @ Cincy, a 1/3 hiccough vs the Padres, and 3 straight in Miami.

    Up ahead: 3 @ Yankees, 3 vs the A's, 3 vs the Royals, and the All-Star break.

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    Bad teams beat good teams often enough, but there are some teams that are loaded with Bobby Dalbec and Chase Anderson types.

    I think the AAAA term fits, sometimes but may be overused/misuded, at times.

    Every season has examples of series lost that should have been won and surprise sweeps or series wins, by teams that suck.

    We are playing well, and the sample size is growing to a point where we might be able to begin to think this is not a fluke. Of course, a lot can happen.

    While I was worried about having to face the Astros after tge opened h the he season sucking, we now APPEAR to be facing the Yanks while they look to be struggling. Usually, these things tend to even out, but sometimes it seems they don’t.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Then we disagree. In my case, vehemently. This year the poster child for weak teams are the White Sox, who took 2 of 4 from our guys. To date, they have won just 28% of their games and have had some bad losing streaks. Their hitting is dead last in MLB and their ERA 3d from the bottom. However, back in May they swept the Indians, who have the best W-L record in the AL, 3 out of 3.

    The White Sox are as good an example as any of the topsy-turvy payroll vs. W-L record in MLB these days. Their payroll, $142M, is 18th, just below the median ($155M), so 28% wins is pretty awful. But how much worse are they than the Mets, with the highest payroll, $310M--over twice as much as the White Sox--and a 42-43 W-L record. Or the Astros, 3d highest payroll ($251M) and a 45-42 W-L record.

    Meanwhile the Cleveland Guardians with the best AL W-L record have the 27th biggest payroll, $100M, and the Orioles with a $101M payroll are 55-32, almost as good as the 54-31 Guardians.

    Then there are the no-name Red Sox, 11th biggest Payroll, $181M, who are 47-39 and doing better than the 10th payroll Giants (43-45), the 9th payroll Rangers (39-48), the 8th payroll Jays (39-48), the 7th payroll Cubs (40-48), and of course the 3d payroll Astros and the 1st payroll Mets.

    As for this Yankees series, July 5-7, to me it's just one more going back 120+ seasons. It's a strange rivalry in that the Yankees have a whopping 27 WS wins, to say nothing of a bigger fan base, etc. Plus the Ruth thing. But I remember plenty of Sox vs. Yankees series during the 86 year drought when the Sox prevailed against all odds.

    And no series was sweeter than the 2004 ALCS, which the wild card Sox took after being down 3 games to 0.

    This season the Yankees payroll is 2d largest, $307M, to the Sox 11th, $181M. That's a pretty big swing, especially given the absence of Story and Giolito and especially Sale, to whom the Sox are paying $17M while he stars for the Braves.

    The no-name Sox should be dead, dead, dead, but in terms coined by a dedicated Yankees fan, one Miracle Max, it's still too early to count the change in the Sox pockets.

    And the mighty Yankees? Let's just say that maybe they have a touch of the flu.

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    Yes, teams nearly filled with AAAA player can win on any given day and split or win a series, here and there, vs the very best of teams or teams like the Sox.

    It doesn’t mean they are much better than a AAA all star team.


    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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