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    6/18 Red Sox in Toronto, while Celtics Celebrate

    Key game in this series with Tanner Houck looking to impose his will on the Jays . His opposing pitcher is C. Bass(itt) , who has a mixed record ( 6-6) ; 3.56 ERA; 1.40 WHIP) but is a large fellow at 6'-5" . 35 year old RH'er who has been much sharper in his last 7 outings. Red Sox can take the series with another win behind their best pitcher.

    New England sports adds its 13th major professional title in the 21st century , so here's to the Champions all. As the fans say, no time for losers !
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    Bassitt's last 5 games:
    30 IP
    1.20 ERA
    2.45 FIP
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Bassitt's last 5 games:
    30 IP
    1.20 ERA
    2.45 FIP
    MVP, your recency bias distorts the long picture on Mr. Bassitt. Why would those last 5 starts have any more bearing on tonight's probabilities than , say, his MiLB record in 2013. All said facetiously of course, but the quantity of electrons that get used on this site to justify the current abilities of certain players always amazes me.

    For example, Trevor Story or Vaughn Grissom, what have you guys done for this team in, say 2024, which if my research is correct is the season we are currently competing in ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasbob View Post
    MVP, your recency bias distorts the long picture on Mr. Bassitt. Why would those last 5 starts have any more bearing on tonight's probabilities than , say, his MiLB record in 2013. All said facetiously of course, but the quantity of electrons that get used on this site to justify the current abilities of certain players always amazes me.

    For example, Trevor Story or Vaughn Grissom, what have you guys done for this team in, say 2024, which if my research is correct is the season we are currently competing in ?
    The same number of electrons used to try to deny the fact that the best indicator of future performance is past performance? By this logic, the Yankees should have cut Aaron Judge after his slow start.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Refreshing to listen to Celtics owner Wyc talking like a fan this morning, and love his all in approach to the team.
    A sharp contrast with 2024 John Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    The same number of electrons used to try to deny the fact that the best indicator of future performance is past performance? By this logic, the Yankees should have cut Aaron Judge after his slow start.
    I think you are an attorney. Have you never read the disclaimer on every investment prospectus ? Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Actually most players go through 3-5 years of declining abilities after reaching 30 years old. It's only the rare ones who continue or actually improve on their career stats. Forunately, Boston is reloading with younger talent and may have a sustainable core for the next 5 years, sort of like a nuclear reactor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasbob View Post
    I think you are an attorney. Have you never read the disclaimer on every investment prospectus ? Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Actually most players go through 3-5 years of declining abilities after reaching 30 years old. It's only the rare ones who continue or actually improve on their career stats. Forunately, Boston is reloading with younger talent and may have a sustainable core for the next 5 years, sort of like a nuclear reactor.
    Nothing is ever guaranteed on absolutely anything in life, except for the fact that we're all going to die. But in baseball (and this is a baseball related discussion), barring physical decline due to age (inevitable), skill erosion, or life-altering injury, the best way to predict a player's future performance is past performance. There are exceptions, like a pitcher altering his repertoire, or a player altering his swing, but there are decades of both qualitative and quantitative data to support this fact. Nothing is guaranteed, but you need to have a baseline to evaluate MLB talent, and that is it.

    Agreed with the point that they are doing the lord's work with establishing their next core, but their inability (hopefully past) to identify worthwhile veteran additions is what's worrisome, and the crux of my argument.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Meanwhile, this is a snoozer of a game in Toronto. Red Sox offense is not sharp, and Tanner had one bad inning to give up the lead.

    Odd to say , but they are missing Hamilton, and Duran is K'ing .

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    The White Sox SS Paul DeJong is available for a trade. This is his final year on his contract that pays him $1,750,000. Should the SOX go after him?

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    Yoshi Whahhh?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Masa comes thru.

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    Even the blind squirrel finds the odd acorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    The White Sox SS Paul DeJong is available for a trade. This is his final year on his contract that pays him $1,750,000. Should the SOX go after him?
    Kick the tires, sure. But the Psle Hose aren’t going to give him away.

    With Mookie out for a couple months, the Dodgers are in need of a ss; they can probably come up with a better offer.
    The Yankees could go 0-162 and it wouldn't be enough

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    How many errors are just simple dropped balls or flubs as they go to throw?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    How many errors are just simple dropped balls or flubs as they go to throw?
    Well, when Abreu is in RF along with Duran and Rafaela, the SOX probably have the best defensive OF in MLB. Unfortunately, this is definitely not true of the IF.

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