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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    That's at least the second time I've effed up his name.
    As long as we know you mean the boring bullpen WASPy name…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Young gave up more for a starter. Two actually…
    The main point is that if the Red Sox want to make a playoff run, they need help in both the rotation and the bullpen.

    Trading Jansen for a starter would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    The trade proposal was for both -- RHH bench guys, even with good splits, just aren't enough vs. a tough lefty like Ragans, as we saw last night.
    Yes, I saw that, but why not 2 pitchers instead of Vald?

    Many of our current SPers are nearing or already over their career highs in IP. We can’t ruin these guys’ arms, and we have to plan for postseason IP, too.

    Going to a 6 man rotation would help.

    While I see a need for a RHB, and SS, 2B or 1B seems to be the best fit, 1B will be covered in 2025, so if we go RH bat at 1B, it seems better to find a rental, and pay less in prospects than Vlad would cost. Now, if we could get TOR to take Yoshida, even if we have to add another good, but not top 6/7 prospect, I’d love to get Vladdy. He could DH and back up 1B in 2025. The money part of a deal with TOR would have to meet JHs needs, and TOR might not care as much about the money as other sellers are: they want the best return of prospects or young controlled ML players.

    On Teel to TOR, I think tge catcher position there is a big strength and has excellent depth.

    I think it might take Anthony, Yorke, Fitts, Lugo, Yoshida and maybe a little cash for…

    Vlad and Kiruchi
    Vlad and Berrios
    Vlad and Gausman (no cash needed for Yoshi pay down)

    I’d prefer 2 of those 3 pitchers, preferably the 2 with most team control.



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    What would it take to outbid everyone for Crochet?

    I’m thinking one from Anthony,Teel or Mayer plus someone like Fitts and Yorke or Bleis and Lugo.

    I’d probably do it, but I’d have to think about it more.

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    I haven’t read every post here and don’t know how many years of control these guys have but here are the highest FWAR pitchers on teams that might be sellers:
    Crochet CWS
    Skubal DET
    Fedde CWS
    H Greene CIN
    M Gore WSH
    Olsen DET
    Flaherty DET
    Irvin WSH
    Bassitt TOR
    Kikuchi TOR
    Keller PIT
    J Gray TEX
    T Williams WSH
    ZEflin TBR
    Littell TBR
    RFeltner, Gausman, N Martinez, Eovaldi, J Jones, Heaney, M Parker, Mize, Lodolo, Sandoval, T Anderson






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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The main point is that if the Red Sox want to make a playoff run, they need help in both the rotation and the bullpen.

    Trading Jansen for a starter would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
    Well, Mr. Gorman, sometimes Paul needs the money more…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Well, Mr. Gorman, sometimes Paul needs the money more…
    With Martin and Slaten on the IL, I'm not seeing the bullpen as clearly in better shape than the rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    With Martin and Slaten on the IL, I'm not seeing the bullpen as clearly in better shape than the rotation.
    How long are both going to be out?

    Can we count on anything from Hendriks?

    If we add a SPer and don’t go to a 6 man rotation, as I think we should, does adding Criswell to the pen as the new long man help enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    How long are both going to be out?

    Can we count on anything from Hendriks?

    If we add a SPer and don’t go to a 6 man rotation, as I think we should, does adding Criswell to the pen as the new long man help enough?
    Don't know the answer to the first two questions. Slaten's injury sounds very ominous.

    I think the idea of trading Jansen for a starter is fine for academic debate, but has little connection to realistic possibilities.
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