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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The lineup would look so much better with Casas in it.
    Right on. Another freaking shut out.

    Oh, wait. The Braves were shut out and the Sox scored 9 runs.

    ???????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I’m ok with “salvaged.” We gave up Hunter Renfroe in that trade, not Mookie…
    The trade was whatever if you ignore the money aspect. Going over the CBT in that year was inexcusable and largely due to that trade.
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    Up next, 4 @ White Sox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    Right on. Another freaking shut out.

    Oh, wait. The Braves were shut out and the Sox scored 9 runs.

    ???????????
    They are a .500 club without Casas for sure. Maybe they'd be above .500 if he was around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    Up next, 4 @ White Sox.
    Feels like a split to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The trade was whatever if you ignore the money aspect. Going over the CBT in that year was inexcusable and largely due to that trade.

    And indecision at the trade deadline. They had ample opportunity to get back under…

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Salvaged? Maybe. It was still a bad trade as it pushed them over the CBT.
    "Salvaged something" not made the trade a good one, overall.

    It will always be a bad trade, unless DHam goes nutty.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    When Pivetta is on, he looks awesome.

    I know you can say that about a lot of pitchers, but Nick has had a few very nice stretches in several seasons, along with some real stinker stretches.

    Since May 28th, last year, he has been excellent.

    110 pitchers with 120+ PAs (before today's awesome game)
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    14. Houck 73 (ahead of Kelly & Verlander)
    17. Pivetta 76 (probably up close to Houck, now. Ahead of Gray and Monty))
    41. Crawford 90 (tied with Nate & Nola)


    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    When Pivetta is on, he looks awesome.

    I know you can say that about a lot of pitchers, but Nick has had a few very nice stretches in several seasons, along with some real stinker stretches.

    Since May 28th, last year, he has been excellent.

    110 pitchers with 120+ PAs (before today's awesome game)
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    14. Houck 73 (ahead of Kelly & Verlander)
    17. Pivetta 76 (probably up close to Houck, now. Ahead of Gray and Monty))
    41. Crawford 90 (tied with Nate & Nola)


    Maybe Denny Galehouse will eventually graduate Pivetta from the ranks of the ham and eggers.

    Nick's career numbers do look pretty average, but he has pitched a lot of damn good games over the last year. Today's performance was as ace-like as you could ask for.
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    Sox fans feel like they're swingin' on a pendulum these days.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Had to tape today's game. Great performance all around. Pivetta was excellent. Congrats to Westbrook getting his 1st ML hit. A very touching moment.
    All in all one of the SOX best games of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Wrong. It impacted the 2023 draft pick compensation for the QO's.
    Right you are. Man, you really need some game with this CBT figurin' shit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Maybe Denny Galehouse will eventually graduate Pivetta from the ranks of the ham and eggers.

    Nick's career numbers do look pretty average, but he has pitched a lot of damn good games over the last year. Today's performance was as ace-like as you could ask for.
    He has pitched like the teams #1 or 2 pitcher for some stretches longer than 2-3 months.
    He's pitched like a #3 for 2-3 month stretches, too.

    ERA/FIP
    3.97/3.98 first 15 starts w BOS ('20-'21)
    4.73/4.45 next 17 GS (to end of .21)
    7.84/5.48 first 5 starts of '22
    2.60/3.17 next 12 GS '22
    5.67/5.39 last 15 GS of '22
    6.30/5.73 first 9 GS of 23 (sent to pen)
    3.16/3.27 end of '23 (8GS and 22 as RP)
    3.40 ERA first 8 GS of '24

    His bad stretches are usually not all that long, but sometimes they are and they can be really bad (below a #5.)


    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    The White Sox have a total of only 15 wins so far this season. They might be one of the worst teams in a long time.
    Old school is good school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    The White Sox have a total of only 15 wins so far this season. They might be one of the worst teams in a long time.
    Can't make any predictions with this RED Sox team, but 3 out of 4 should be the over-under.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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