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Thread: A Realistic View of 2024: Part II

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    I'm beginning to think that on this thread pessimistic is synonymous with realistic. It you are high on the Sox, you must be high on something else--bourbon, whatever.

    Well, count me out of the pessimism school, and here's why.

    The 9 latest games: 3 vs. the best AL Team, 3 vs. the best NL Team, and 3 vs. the 47% winning Jays--and the Sox won 7 of them with good enough pitching and surprisingly good hitting.

    Season to date--and we are at 75 games, almost at 81, which is half the season--the Sox team ERA, 3.45, is 5th best in MLB. The 2018 Sox finished at 8th, ERA 3.75.

    The hitting is not nearly as good as 2018, which was 1st in runs scored and OPS. However, the 2024 Sox are 9th in runs scored and 5th in OPS, and I think they can get better--barring further key injuries--because two of their top OPS guys, Casas @ .857 and Abreu @ .829--missed those 9 games. Plus there are really only three experienced hitters--Devers, O'Neill, and Refsnyder--on the active roster. Wong, Casas, Abreu, Duran, Rafaela, Hamilton, Valdez, and Gonzalez are still learning. That's a double-edged sword, I know, but I take those 9 games in June as being very timely in terms of the future. Old Julius said it best: I came, I saw, I conquered. He also said Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, which freely translated says there are 3 wild card slots in the AL.

    Defense still stinks--well, the infield, anyway--but maybe with fewer unearned runs. We'll see. And a tiny counterbalance is that the baserunning adds to the offense to help compensate for those unearned runs (also earned runs that weren't).

    I think the Sox need 92 wins to make the postseason. How doable is that? They need to play 60% ball the rest of the way. So far they are winning at a 53% rate, so the improvement needs to be 7%. Piece of cake--if the 53% is valid and not, as too many on here seem to think, blind stupid luck. To remind: if it's luck, it's almost half a season of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    Plus there are really only three experienced hitters--Devers, O'Neill, and Refsnyder--on the active roster. Wong, Abreu, Duran, Rafaela, Hamilton, Valdez, and Gonzalez are still learning.
    Duran turns 28, soon. He's been in MLB since 2021 and has over 1,000 PAs. He is still kinda "learning," but only because he's tweaked his batting approach so many times, my head is spinning.

    Wong is already 28, which many view as the start of prime. He's also been in MLB, since 2021, but did not play much in MLB is '21 and '22. He's got 683 career PAs, so I agree he is still learning, but I think he is close to being all leanded-did-did-did out on batting (not fielding, of course.)

    Reese has been around since 2018, but I can understand not calling him a "batter." Same with Dalbec.

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Duran turns 28, soon. He's been in MLB since 2021 and has over 1,000 PAs. He is still kinda "learning," but only because he's tweaked his batting approach so many times, my head is spinning.

    Wong is already 28, which many view as the start of prime. He's also been in MLB, since 2021, but did not play much in MLB is '21 and '22. He's got 683 career PAs, so I agree he is still learning, but I think he is close to being all leanded-did-did-did out on batting (not fielding, of course.)

    Reese has been around since 2018, but I can understand not calling him a "batter." Same with Dalbec.

    Good points. Duran may be 28, but 2023 was his first meaningful year in MLB. Same goes for Wong, who blossomed last year and played 126 games vs 33 total in 2021 and 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    Good points. Duran may be 28, but 2023 was his first meaningful year in MLB. Same goes for Wong, who blossomed last year and played 126 games vs 33 total in 2021 and 2022.
    I do think he can still improve at bat. Many get better after 28.

    I just don't view him as inexperienced.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I do think he can still improve at bat. Many get better after 28.

    I just don't view him as inexperienced.
    Fine with me. How's Maine? Hot like the rest of us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    Fine with me. How's Maine? Hot like the rest of us?
    It just stormed, followed by 75 degrees

    High of 67 for Saturday
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Fangraphs Playoff Chances:
    %
    99.8 NYY
    98.4 BAL
    86.5 SEA
    85.8 CLE
    71.7 MIN
    43.6 KCR
    36.3 BOS
    34.0 HOU
    16.3 TBR
    10.5 TEX
    9.8 TOR

    8 teams over 33%
    8 teams over 17%
    11 teams basically over 10%

    The NL is wide open, despite the top 4 being over 85%

    99.6 PHI
    98.9 LAD
    93.6 ATL
    85.9 MIL

    38.7 SDP
    36.2 AZ
    29.6 SFG
    29.6 STL
    28.8 NYM
    25.5 CHC
    16.4 CIN
    14.4 PIT

    10 teams over 25%
    12 over 14%

    23 out of 30 teams have a 10% or better chance at making the playoffs! Baseball teams are stronger than ever!!! (LOL)
    20 teams have over a 14% chance
    18 teams over 25%
    16 teams over 30% (actually 29.6%)
    Last edited by moonslav59; 06-20-2024 at 06:29 PM.
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    Top ERA Pitchers with 75+ IP

    1.75 Ranger Suarez
    1.89 Shota Imanaga
    2.14 Corbin Burnes
    2.14 Tanner Houck
    2.42 Seth Lugo (also leads in IP by 5)
    2.43 Ronel Blanco
    2.48 T Anderson
    2.50 T Skubal
    2.75 J Assad
    2.82 J Hicks
    2.84 Z Wheeler
    2.93 L Gilbert
    2.95 S Gray
    2.98 C Sale
    2.99 L Webb
    3.00 T Glasnow
    3.01 J Flaherty
    3.04 G Stone
    3.08 M Stroman

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    Sox RP'ers OPS Against
    .464 Uwasawa (only 16 PAs)
    .470 Z Kelly (almost as many PAs as Jansen)/.250 as SP in 8 PAs
    .499 Jansen
    .556 Bernardino/.384 as SP in 11 PAs
    .575 Slaten (most PAs Against at 151)
    .623 Anderson (2nd most PAs)
    .634 Keller
    .654 Booser
    .714 Martin

    As SP'ers
    .528 Houck
    .616 Whitlock (75 PAs)
    .620 Wink (41)
    .656 Crawford
    .708 Criswell
    .719 Pivetta
    .766 Bello

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    OPS Last 4 weeks
    1.156 Valdez (1.066 last 14 days)
    .940 O'Neill (1.120)
    .889 Devers (.728)
    .880 Rafaela (1.086)
    .841 DHam (.844)
    .837 Duran (.986)
    .792 D Smith (.710)
    .784 Wong (.917)
    .780 Refsnyder (.725)
    .765 Abreu (N/A)
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    Remember when pretty much the entire site wanted Duran traded? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    Remember when pretty much the entire site wanted Duran traded? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
    We once had a guy who wanted 36 out of the 40 gone.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Sox fWAR and Ranking by Positions:

    2nd Pitching at 10.7 (4th as SP/3rd as RP)
    2nd LF 2.7 (Duran Da Man)
    4th RF 2.6
    6th Catcher 2.1
    8th CF 1.6

    14th 3B 1.2
    17th SS 1.2 (Surprisingly not bottom 5-10)
    19th 1B 0.2 (Casas should help, when he returns.)

    23rd DH -0.4
    30th 2B (How much longer can we be the worst, here?)

    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    Remember when pretty much the entire site wanted Duran traded? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
    I suggested him for a trade but not because I wanted him gone. His years of control made him a valuable trade chip. I was also told repeatedly he was not one…

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    Nobody is saying out pitching will continue doing this well, all year, but we are on pace for a 23.1 fWAR in pitching.

    In JH's era, here is how that would rank:

    23.2 2017
    23.1 2024 projected
    21.5 2003
    20.7 2004
    20.3 2021
    18.8 2016
    18.5 2018 & 2009
    18.4 2007 & 2008
    16.5 2019
    15.8 2013
    15.7 2010

    Our 10.7 current fWAR is already higher than
    10.6 2024
    10.2 2022
    6.4 2012
    0.1 2020 (short season)




    When you say it's gonna happen now
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