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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    Being state side this year, I expect to see a more robust scouting report at some point.
    #metoo

    Without them seeing Cespedes in person, it's hard to really fill one out. They may even have one this spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    BA came out with their top 100. Sox on the list.

    14. Mayer
    21. Anthony
    62. Teel
    94. Rafaela

    Sox had 5 prospects who didn't make the final cut for the top 100 but did receive votes (meaning they're in some peoples top 100)

    Miguel Bleis
    Wikelman Gonzelez
    Dick Fitts
    Wilyer Abreu
    Yoeilin Cespeds.
    Encouraging.

    Wow, 2 pitchers on the extended list!
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Bleis was noted as being in the "just missed" category. If Cespedes has a strong season, he'll be in the conversation too.
    I'm getting a real good vibe on Cespedes.

    (Maybe we should trade him. LOL)
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I'm getting a real good vibe on Cespedes.

    (Maybe we should trade him. LOL)
    Since Breslow named the big three as guys he's counting on soon, Mayer looks like a keeper. Hearing him in interviews at Fenway's prospect party this week, Mayer's poise already makes him a team leader type... it's evident the way he comports himself that he's been talking the talk and backing it up for a long time in his short life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Since Breslow named the big three as guys he's counting on soon, Mayer looks like a keeper. Hearing him in interviews at Fenway's prospect party this week, Mayer's poise already makes him a team leader type... it's evident the way he comports himself that he's been talking the talk and backing it up for a long time in his short life.
    Disappointing that he lost a season because he tried to push though an injury and didn't know how to communicate it to the staff. I hope he has learned from this and there are no long term effects.
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    I know much of the Sox prospect talk has focused on the lack of clear good pitchers, but it's hard not to be optimistic about the future projected farm infusion.

    Of course, some will not pan out as hoped, and some might become just role players or barely above replacement level back-ups, but I have to say, I'm impressed by the quality and quantity of prospects that have a decent chance at making a contribution.

    We just graduated:
    2023: Casas, EValdez, Murphy, Bernardino & kelly
    2022: Bello, Crawford, Duran & Wink
    2021" Whitlock & Houck

    Estimated graduation years:

    2024: Rafaela, Abreu, Slaten, Mata, Yorke, Fitts, Guerrero
    (Walter, DHam, Rosier, Sogard, Lugo, Liu)

    2025: Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Perales, Wikelman, Meidroth, Monegro, Hickey
    (Jordan, Dobbins, E R-C, Bastardo, Hoppe, Troye, Gambrell, I Coffey, S Scott, Hagenman)

    2026: Bleis, Castro, Song
    (Paulino, Romero, Brannon, C Coffey, Penrod, Ravelo, K Campbell, Benitez, Olivares, Soto, Early, Mullins)

    2027: Cespedes, Zanetello, Jo Garcia, A Anderson
    (Alcantara, Arias, Yuten, Sena, Reimer, Paez, Cepeda, Judice, Encarnacion)
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    Walter, Hamilton, Rosier, Sogard, Lugo and Liu don't have a shot of making it this year. Lugo could have been Rule 5 picked the past two seasons and nobody is concerned with taking him even in the minor league phase.

    Mata will probably be DFA'd or traded before the season starts. He just doesn't have the control to perform in MLB if they are going to keep Slaten.

    Guerrero began to really struggle with his bb rate towards the end of last season. I don't think he gets called up at all this season without fixing that.

    Fitts may be in line for an emergency call up, but none of us have seen him and he really is only a two pitch pitcher.

    Yorke has been uninspiring the past 2 seasons. Without a 850-900 OPS and an injury on the MLB roster, there isn't a place for him unless he finds a new position.

    The guys I think have a good chance of impacting the roster:
    2024- Rafaela, Abreu, Slaten
    2025 - Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Wikelman
    2026 - Perales, Dobbins, Early
    2027 - Bleis, Cespedes, Zanetello
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Walter, Hamilton, Rosier, Sogard, Lugo and Liu don't have a shot of making it this year. Lugo could have been Rule 5 picked the past two seasons and nobody is concerned with taking him even in the minor league phase.

    Mata will probably be DFA'd or traded before the season starts. He just doesn't have the control to perform in MLB if they are going to keep Slaten.

    Guerrero began to really struggle with his bb rate towards the end of last season. I don't think he gets called up at all this season without fixing that.

    Fitts may be in line for an emergency call up, but none of us have seen him and he really is only a two pitch pitcher.

    Yorke has been uninspiring the past 2 seasons. Without a 850-900 OPS and an injury on the MLB roster, there isn't a place for him unless he finds a new position.

    The guys I think have a good chance of impacting the roster:
    2024- Rafaela, Abreu, Slaten
    2025 - Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Wikelman
    2026 - Perales, Dobbins, Early
    2027 - Bleis, Cespedes, Zanetello
    I listed some longshots and possible role players and depth.

    There is a chance some of the players you did not list improve and make an impact. It might be a long shot.

    Add the chances of Mata, Fitts and Guerrero, and I'd say there is a significant chance something good could happen in '24 or '25. (Maybe not over 50%, but maybe 33% to 50.



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    @keithlaw has released his new Top 100 Prospect list, and the Red Sox have plenty of representation:

    8. Marcelo Mayer
    22. Roman Anthony
    32. Ceddanne Rafaela
    54. Kyle Teel
    88. Miguel Bleis
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
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    @keithlaw has released his new Top 100 Prospect list, and the Red Sox have plenty of representation:

    8. Marcelo Mayer
    22. Roman Anthony
    32. Ceddanne Rafaela
    54. Kyle Teel
    88. Miguel Bleis
    Pretty high on Mayer and Rafaela.

    5 in the top 90 is real nice, although still no pitchers.

    Law has been known to downgrade the Sox, so this is encouraging.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Pretty high on Mayer and Rafaela.

    5 in the top 90 is real nice, although still no pitchers.

    Law has been known to downgrade the Sox, so this is encouraging.
    I think it was more other people moving in front of Mayer than him falling off. When you're talking about the top 25-50 guys, if you lose a season due to injury someone somewhere is going to show something that has to put them in front of you. If Mayer comes roaring back this year he could easily be in everyones top 10 again.
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    New Prediction. The Sox will make a major starting pitching acquisition in the 2023/24 offseason.

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    I find it interesting that all of a sudden Law is higher on the Sox system than everyone else.
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    New Prediction. The Sox will make a major starting pitching acquisition in the 2023/24 offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    I find it interesting that all of a sudden Law is higher on the Sox system than everyone else.
    I find it interesting that everyone seems LOW on Teel.

    If he comes out swinging this Spring, he'll jump up the rankings IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I find it interesting that everyone seems LOW on Teel.

    If he comes out swinging this Spring, he'll jump up the rankings IMO.
    I don’t think the issue is his bat, is it? Could it be his glove/position?

    I mean it took the guy all of 75 games to make it to AA, and then he rocked a .945 OPS when he got there.

    But do scouts think he can’t/won’t stick at catcher maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I don’t think the issue is his bat, is it? Could it be his glove/position?

    I mean it took the guy all of 75 games to make it to AA, and then he rocked a .945 OPS when he got there.

    But do scouts think he can’t/won’t stick at catcher maybe?
    They've ranked prospects higher with less games played, so maybe it is the position doubts.

    If he hits like that to start 2024 and gets promoted to AAA, I'm thinking the mid season rankings will jump him higher.

    Several rankings have Anthony higher and Rafaela lower.

    I know every team has recent grads, too, but I'm really liking our young 7:

    Casas
    Bello
    Anthony
    Mayer
    Teels
    Rafaela
    Bleis

    (I'm also higher on Abreu than others seem to be.)

    We have a bunch of other exciting ot promising players in the 24-28 range:
    Devers
    Crawford
    Houck
    Wink
    Whitlock
    Duran
    Wong
    EValdez

    That's a pretty nice 14-15 group of young players and prospects.

    We just need a couple aces to carry them to glory.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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