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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    And when he's gone the focus will turn to the new worst one.
    Criswell? He actually has value as an emergency starter.

    Mata will probably be put on the 60 day IL or DFA'd. Hendriks needs to be added to the 60 day IL.

    The overall pitching depth seems pretty good IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Criswell? He actually has value as an emergency starter.

    Mata will probably be put on the 60 day IL or DFA'd. Hendriks needs to be added to the 60 day IL.

    The overall pitching depth seems pretty good IMO.
    Does it? What if Giolito is Kluber Redux?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Criswell? He actually has value as an emergency starter.

    Mata will probably be put on the 60 day IL or DFA'd. Hendriks needs to be added to the 60 day IL.

    The overall pitching depth seems pretty good IMO.
    Hendriks will surely be added to the 60 day IL, at some point, so one slot will open there. Hopefully for Monty, Clevinger or at least Lauer, but even if not, it won't be for Sogard.

    Also, by the end of ST'ing Sogard might be at a .650 OPS and forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Does it? What if Giolito is Kluber Redux?
    Bailey has already said he doesn't think they need to add any pitchers. He likes what they have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Does it? What if Giolito is Kluber Redux?
    He said depth, not our #1/2 slot SP'er.

    Last season, we started the year with Whitlock, Paxton, Bello, Joely & MIlls on the IL. Kelly joined them.

    Let's say this was our all healthy 13 in 2023, on opening day, and the depth:

    13:
    Kluber, Sale, Paxton, Bello, Pivetta
    Jansen, Martin, Whitlock, Houck, Crawford, Schreiber, Bleier, Brasier

    Depth (as seen on opening day):
    Winckowski, Joely, Ort, Murphy, Walter, Jacques, Llovera, Garza, Sherriff
    (Bernardino, Weiss, Dermody, Bearclaw, Robertson & otherswere added mid season)

    That is awful pitching depth.

    This year's "all healthy" 13:
    Giolito, Bello, Pivetta, Crawford, Houck
    Jansen, Martin, Whitlock, Winckowski, Bernardino, Hendriks, Slaten (Rule 5 limited), Mata (out of options)

    Depth:
    Murphy, Criswell, Fitts, Walter, Gambrell (Wikelman?)
    Campbell, Weissert, Joely, Kelly, Luetge, Guerrero, Hagenman, Politi, German, Song, Jacques, Booser

    This may not look grat, but it looks like a significant improvement over last year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Bailey has already said he doesn't think they need to add any pitchers. He likes what they have...
    Why do we keep adding people that are clearly high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Why do we keep adding people that are clearly high?
    Their words are just stock lines.

    Prez: "We plan on competing for the world championship."
    CBO: "We'd be remiss if we didn't always look to upgrade."
    Coaching staff: "We like our players."

    Less fans than ever: "We believe every single lie you tell us, and have total faith you'll make the Red Sox great again."

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    He said depth, not our #1/2 slot SP'er.
    Right, but losses at the top move everyone up the ladder and reduce depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Does it? What if Giolito is Kluber Redux?
    Jeezus, this just got the fastest answer ever.
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    This thread will be the top thread of the 2024 season.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    I think the rotational depth stinks, but the reliever depth is very strong.

    With Giolito getting injured, they are relying on Whitlock to stay in the rotation all year. That doesn't seem likely to me. I think we'll end up seeing starts from Murphy, Walter, Criswell and maybe Gambrell before the ASB. Henry isn't adding to this ballclub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    This thread will be the top thread of the 2024 season.
    At least a lot of the games are broadcast on MLB.tv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I think the rotational depth stinks, but the reliever depth is very strong.

    With Giolito getting injured, they are relying on Whitlock to stay in the rotation all year. That doesn't seem likely to me. I think we'll end up seeing starts from Murphy, Walter, Criswell and maybe Gambrell before the ASB. Henry isn't adding to this ballclub.
    They will have at least two open spots on the 40 man roster once they start adding Mata, Giolito, and Hendricks to the 60 day IL. I assume Cron gets one of them…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    They will have at least two open spots on the 40 man roster once they start adding Mata, Giolito, and Hendricks to the 60 day IL. I assume Cron gets one of them…
    Mata on the 60 with a hamstring pull?

    Let's assume these 3 go on the 60, these might be some guys added, at some point:
    1B
    Cron (if we don't like Dalbec on the 26.)

    P
    Fitts
    Gambrell
    Luetge
    Guerrero
    Hagenman

    IF
    Yorke
    Sogard
    Westbrook

    OF
    Contreras (I doubt it)

    Am I missing anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    They will have at least two open spots on the 40 man roster once they start adding Mata, Giolito, and Hendricks to the 60 day IL. I assume Cron gets one of them…
    I feel like they'd DFA Dalbec to put Cron on the 40 man. No other reason to add him. If they are pushing pitchers to the 60 day IL, why replace them with hitters?

    More likely they add Joely and Luetge.
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